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Nearly all those players were available against Hawthorn, West Coast, North Melbourne

Young side? Rivers Bartram Garland Davey Sylvia Moloney Jones Jamar Green Bate Dunn McDonald Grimes Warnock Petterd Frawley These blokes are old enough to win the loose ball. They are old enough to fight, they know how to win. They can play. So we do we frequently look pathetic. Maybe it is Bailey who lets them get away with it. Maybe he can't coach. Remember Terry Wallace. He had 5 years. Collingwood is a very young side aswell. You don't see them talking about patience. They just wanna win.

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Just another week at the office

How about the hawks? How about Terry Wallace? Somewhere in the middle i reckon

What did he blame for the terrible performance? Surely not himself. Im sure he just classified it as dissapointing. Yeah, that should appease the supporters.

Green - towled by tarrant Jones - too much twitter Bartram - shold have shirt-fronted dawes Watts - best on ground Gysberts - well beaten Bennell - he beat krakouer Frawley - ok Trengove - worst game of season Morton - getting better Sylvia - big strong marking McKenzie - he looked slow Moloney - not too bad Jurrah - he looks lost Rivers - work cut out McDonald - work cut out Scully - staying or going Martin - not too bad Gawn - not ready yet Howe - never stopped trying Jetta - poor until injured Strauss - deserves more games Evans - had little opportunity

Who is responsible for: 1. Our forward structure. 2. Our lack of hard ball gets. 3. Our lack of clearances from ball ups. 4. Our silly turnovers. 5. Our lack of confidence to kick the ball long into the forward line. 6. Our lack of run. 7. Our general lack of desire and determination 8. Our lack of accountability 9. Our coach Someone must be responsible for the insipid performances we have seen this year. I cant handle it anymore. Bailey is doing more damage than good. We need viney. Desperately.

Maybe he can kick 8

Never?

When creating a 2 - tier system, it must allow for further expansion, and also maintain 22 rounds per season. 25 rounds would be too taxing on the players. I think the conference system of the NFL would work a treat. Future additional teams in the AFL would include; Tasmania. Canberra Northern Territory Cairns *** Kangaroos should represent Regional Victoria.

I agree 100%. Its just a matter of time until a 2 tier system comes into play.

If martin continues to dominate the ruck, why not ease jamar back into the side by playing at ff. He might just be what we need. we are screaming for a big strong talented focal point. It would straighten us up and allow our talented mids to drive long and direct with confidence.

I think jamar has the tools to kick bags of goals. I think he is the best mark for anyone his size in the afl. He just needs to improve his kicking.

Why not, he kicked 5 in a quarter against the blues.

Imagine jamar taking huge pack marks, big strong leads, kicking 8 a game. If neitz could kick 80 odd, so can Jamar. He can play out his career there for the next 5 years.

I like what your saying. As good as jamar is as a ruckman, we need a big strong full forward that can take huge pack marks. He learnt how to be a great ruckman, maybe he can learn how to be an even better fullforward. Martin is looking the goods in the ruck, he covers ground and racks up possies. With gawn coming into the side in the next few years, jamar could be just what we need at fullforward. He is a better mark than neitz.

We need him. He is one of our most important players, in the elk of chapman from geelong. If fit, he must start in our 18. Drop strauss, he is not ready.

After watching Howe, I think he might have the tools to be a spectacular FF, also applying tremendous defensive pressure.

Your kidding. Straus looked soft and confused. IMO, he is well off the pace.

I love watching Jetta. I think he will be the best of all the Jetta's. He tries and tries and tries, a bit like jones. We can't go wrong with a fella like him in the team.

I too, am not sure he can deliver a premiership, but if we can put in a good performance against the pies, i will support him as coach for season 2011. If we make finals, he deserves a shot at 2012. Lets see.........

I thought he was dissapointing. He still looks soft and confused. I dont think he is ready, i hope he comes good, but he is a long way off.