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Agreed. That's not a sustainable performance. However, his first AFL game for yonks. Get the nerves outta the way. Reset for this week and hopefully a better result. Apart from the middle to top end talent, i would think most fringe players would take a few weeks to find their feet, especially if they haven't played in years. Hopefully he will step up. But there's also the role playing component. Provide a competitive chop out and neutralise against the oppo ruck where possible. Wins to advantage a bonus. Act as a decoy at times taking your opponent away from the hot zones or lanes that Petty / Fritta / Melk / Kozzy & Tracc are looking to work into. Draw the occasional extra defender on your own leads and / or get the ball to ground as bare minimum for the smalls to work on (front & square etc). Oppo defenders usually don't do so well when up against a 2 meter + player who hits up at the ball carrier. Especially when the ball's coming in quickly. If he gets these basics right, provides a half decent chop out and goals occasionally, then he's played his role for the team. The FD will be all over this anyways and he'll be well scripted as to what his minimum requirements are. Part of that will probably be work rate and 2nd efforts, multiple leads, what he does without the ball etc.
Classic Chook. But this has to be one of the more frustrating things. And not just with Max. Last week was almost the perfect game from him so no complaints from me. You aren't expecting a super accurate kick from any player over 2 meters. If you do it's a huge bonus. But his set shot accuracy is so poor. Three things that stand out for me. The first is the last step. Which i've pointed out many times over the years. Not always but mostly, ends up pointing like daffy duck out to the left. So where's the right follow through kicking leg going to end up pretty much any time he plants the daffy left launch foot? You guessed it... hard shank left. But imo that last faulty launch step is there because the method is flawed. Secondly, there's the runway approach to the kick. Which is way too robotic and slow Imo. BBB is a similar height. He also has a long run up. But he B lined straight for the goals and by the time he hit the launch pad, he had some speed and momentum up. His follow through after the kick was going straight at the goals. Thirdly, Max does the slow robotic (hesistant) run up even when he's only 35 meters out, or less! And from what i remember he also leans back as he kicks yes? Another potential nail in the kicking accuracy coffin even if the left foot is pointing straight at goal. Those shots should be "find a target behind the goals, maybe directly behind the right post or just aim at the right post about half way up". Run in more quickly as if you're just hitting a standard field kick pass to a fellow player 20 - 35 meters away. Follow through off the kick towards the target. All easy from here and i'm not over 2 meters tall. But wish someone would work with him and change it up. Should've happened years ago. I'm sure he's tried and tried and had help, but whatever the method, it ain't working and if anything he appears to have gotten worse in the last season or so. Alternatively try and get the handball away to someone who's a good kick coming from behind. Or a short pass lateral to a designated kicker. Same with Tracc's around the corner kicks. My gosh. No deliberate technique apparent. Just flop it on the boot and hope it curls through. Crazy stuff. Even 2 meter tall Draper with his awkward technique, has a very deliberate around the corner technique. And it works. 9 from 9 attempts prior to his season ending injury. Tracc looks like he CBB with anything deliberate and in a rush just to bang it through. You have to want to put an effective procedure (that works for you) in place by constant practice and minor adjustments. Alot of room for improvement with Max & Tracc.
The chances are likely given Nash is not a name player. But who knows. The Hawks also have long tentacles that might still have some influence at HQ
Nash KO'd Miers... "A football act" surely
Good question GS. Possibly a combination of things. Expectations are high for him as watchers remember his Pre 2024 levels. Which were mostly off the chart B&F all Australian type performances. Anything substantially below those levels and he ain't looking like the Clazz we once knew (at his peak). For his usual standards, no he isn't. From there people are judging and saying he is so far off. Yes he is off those levels. But that doesn't mean he isn't producing a level that still has him just ahead of some of our best. Keeping in mind that until Freo, with a few exceptions, many have been well below their best also. Which might make Clarry's player ratings appear like he's rating super well or in this case, over rated as you are suggesting. To give some idea, his 2025 rating is 7% below season 2023 (5.00), 13% below 2022 (5.32) and 12% below 2021 (5.26). 2025 is (so far) right on par with his 2019 Rating of 4.64 This Rating punishes turnovers. And while Clazz does appear to be turning it over a fair bit in some games, believe it or not, he appears to have cleaned that part up a little vs prior seasons (see his turnover average below). Less turnovers does help lift his player rating a tad and might be giving a bit of a false reading vs his actual impact on the game vs seasons prior to 2024. Average Turnovers by Season 2025 - 3.3 2024 - 4.4 2023 - 5.7 2022 - 5.5 2021 - 5.3 2020 - 4.6 2019 - 4.7 This rating doesn't cover things like two way running and pressure acts either. Amongst other factors! He might be off vs prior years here? Tackles and 1 percenters are quite good vs 2021 - 2023 Contested possessions are still about 3 down on average vs his best years from 2021 - 2022 as per below... 2025 14.3 2024 11.2 2023 14.5 2021 - 2022 17.7 Combine this with the fact that he is having a reasonably good year vs 2024 and that may explain why his rating appears a tad high. Coming off a low base! Still a fair way off 21 - 23 levels though. However an 'ok' Clarry in terms of output and impact may well still be better than most. In the end my ratings are not all encompassing and far from perfect. Everyone also sees the game differently. Some are better at this than others too. Stats are only a rough record of some limited aspects of what happens on the field. No matter how comprehensive, they can't cover all aspects and nuances and a big caveat always hangs over them. A classic example is someone putting in a hard tag. I doubt stats will ever highlight a good job done on that front. Another is the fat side winger. So much two way running that goes unrewarded but it remains an integral part of the team's success regardless.
They must have asked him to work on aspects of his game. Part of that possibly defence & pressure? Work rate another maybe?
Team & Player Ratings to Rnd 6, 2025 vs H&A Season 2024 That result pushes us just ahead of our Season 2024 Team Rating Now we just need to get Melk, Spargo, Windsor, Tracc & Viney back to or fairly near to their very best on a consistent basis from here. A great bounce back from Vines against the Dockers is a good start from him. CP5 still a power of work ahead to get back to his 2024 levels but is improving week by week. Big Max close to his best form. Fabulous start to the season from Bowsa, Chandler, Petty & Langdon. The two rookies in Lindsay & Langdon tracking nicely 🤞🏻 McVee back soonish. May a possibility? Culley could be a surprise packet at some point. * Played less than two full matches < Subbed out at least once or more > Subbed in at least once or more Stats courtesy of footwire.com & wheeloratings.com
The play we don't have in the kick in arsenal yet is the occasional play on give and go straight up the middle. Would love to see that at some point using say knuckles out of the square off to Windsor et al.
He was showing similar probs at the end of the Bombres match
Kozz Big Max GAWN Bow wow Bowsa Vines Riv HP
Not wanting to be pedantic GW but aren't a point and behind the same thing? Also whenever Max is lining up a goal could you have the Bullseye handler move it across about 12 - 15 feet left of centre. Thanks in advance
Round 6, 2025 MCG - Demons vs Dockers Happy Easter fellow minions and a hip hip hooray! Finally on the board for 2025. Bit of a relief for all i'm sure. Our best Team Rating since Rnd 23, 2024 vs The Suns (72.13) Three players cracking the big 5.0 is something special and that's what the boys finally delivered. A 35% improvement by the 'best 6' players on our 2024 best 6 average. Vintage Maxy, Bowey proving his recent uptick in form is no fluke with a gritty but classy output and then our super star Kozzy starting the spark and setting the MCG and the Demon faithful alight. Max heads the player ratings but imho it's hard to go past Kozzy as BOG with that outstanding performance. For a small forward to crack a rating of 5.0 doesn't come easy, especially given the degree of difficulty attached to this specialist role and the limited opportunities given. Yes Koz does play mid minutes but the energy required to do both in such a manner makes this effort even more outstanding imv. A Wizard esque performance. Let's take a look at some of his output on the day... 19 effectives @ 79.2% efficiency (AFL ave roughly 74%), 1 contested speccie over Petty, 2 marks inside 50, 2 one percenters, 4 clearances, 1 rebound, 6 inside 50s, 3 tackles (2 of those i50), 10 score involvements (only bettered by Max & Bolton with 12 a piece), 2 intercepts, 475 meters gained, 3 turnovers and the most goals on the day with 5. Anzac Eve awaits against a Tiger outfit that's up and about. Demons < Subbed out TOG % > Subbed in TOG % Dockers Combined Player Ratings Stats courtesy of footywire.com and wheeloratings.com
Further work required and maybe a decent nights sleep or two
Try telling that to a GWS player in long sleeves at Casey today!
You need an enforcer or two. We've had the old stager in Vines for so long. Now he's joined by the young Kolt. Fighting for every scrap, jostling and flying the flag are just as important as anything else in the game. Add to that the fierce attack on the ball and ball carrier. Pressure pressure pressure. Something that's been missing for far too long. The sharing of ball, running in support and more HBs forward (finally), paid dividends today. Have to back it up though. No flukes pls.
Well if we're gonna start blowing our own trumpet, may as well join in with my contribution from the pre-match thread... Demon DynastyMembers2 days comment_2620010 Desperate times call for desperate measures QD I can sniff a win but beer o'clock also started about 2 hours ago!
Pretty much zero impact im afraid Culley showed something in patches. Like the way he goes about it. I'm guessing he's probably a fair way away from building a tank / match fitness that will see him capable of handling AFL level. He'll get a call up at some point and will be exciting to watch when he debuts. He's a big boy and his height makes him a super versatile player who will be a difficult match up. Can easily be thrown up forward to shake things up and worry the oppo too, which was trialled today for a stint. Sestan pretty good aside from a few costly turnovers in the last Q. On that game McVee looked super rusty. Got his hands on it a bit in the second half but much of it was chip kicking and switching around back. Having said that he could play next week regardless. Bonner & Kent both pretty good. Don't mind Hardie. Doesn't rack them up but pretty good quality. Baldi, Cross & Smith all worked their bums off against the tide with a few ordinary moments mixed in at times, which can happen, even to the best. The absence of Campbell hurt imho. And Casey still hasn't found an answer to the loss of moose Munro who was the glue and engine room at CBs and stoppages for so many seasons. A few are trying hard but it's a big hole to fill.
There is no niggle or any physical issues with Rooh. It's just form and confidence unfortunately
Choco wants to see a 5 goal quarter
Best passage of play there so far from us. More run and link up needed from defence against the wind vs too many standing around and ball carier trying for precision kicks into the wind. Kirkwood's disposal ..bah
To have any chance of winning this they'll need to leave AJ in as the main ruck and change with Verral (for the chop out) off the bench or rest Verral forward if Rooh needs the odd break
Shocking kick from Kirkwood for the turnover goal
Bill could've taken a few more steps and really opened that checkside up
