Moonshadow

No one questions Jesse's ability. IMO the issues are his body and his motivation, particularly the latter. I hope he continues to improve over summer and comes back in good shape for 2021 But I don't want him back with us. Its simply risk/reward. I want a tall forward line of Weid, Jacko, and a fit Petty in 2021. Depth Brown. Note: no Tmac

Not 2021 first rounder for 2020 2nd rounder. That's terrible

Have you emailed the club stating this, od? It's probably good for them to hear the concerns of members

Good point about the FA compo, Luce. Hawthorn's #22 might end up in the 30s Kozzie and Rivers look even better value!

Viney is a FA. He doesn't need a trade

Is he available for this year's draft?

Lots of people like Iced Vo Vos, picket!

The second rounder we got from Hawks will end up being about 29 by the time the academy and f/s matches are done. Wasn't it 7 or 8 of them in top 25? Is Saad worth 29?

God i hope they're not considering Smith. Nearly 32, Hawks offered him 2 years. We be certifiable mad to match that.

Do you believe he'll get another? That's of more relevance They've made some serious trading blunders in the last 3 years. Can't see Frost being a win for them

Is Tmac really on $700-800k? Wow

Thank god for the ignore function

Frost was never going to follow team rules or the game plan with us. He danced to the beat of his own drum. How many times did he dash down the field, turn the ball over and then watch a rebound goal? How many times did he fail to apply his part in the zone? Remember May going off at him for doing his own thing? Maybe Clarko has changed him. Dunno. My hawk supporting mates like his passion and flair, but not his disposal

No it wasn't. IIRC Toumpas was considered the better option by most in the industry. Of course a few here will claim they knew better. Even Jack acknowledged that he would've picked him. I'm not going to say it was a good choice with the luxury of hindsight, it was terrible for us. But I'm certainly not going to say that Wines over Toumpas was a "no brainer" at the time. That's just ridiculous.

Does he pass any measure of the No DH rule? He'd have to be an A grader to justify taking on the problems he has

IIRC our FD at the time thought he was not competitive enough, particularly given his size. Can't remember the exact details, however I don't think that assessment has been proven wrong Pass

He can move in with Marty Hore

Still think a hit up forward is his only option with us. Good kick for goal, set shot or snap. Completely disagree with anyone claiming he's soft or doesn't go when its his turn. If anything he's too reckless with his safety.

Clarko would really be having a big clear out if Wingard left. What did he cost them? Wasn't it Burton and a 1st rounder? Either Clarko would be a genius or he'd be following the Sheedy road to senility

A friend told me of some twin girls born at RCH. Kate and Duplicate Agree that we are no position to bring in Smith. Wouldn't be on my wish list, but stranger things have happened!

Again. Stop quoting me.

And there you have it. Officially paranoid, as well as wrong I've not initiated quoting you since you got me a ban. I've asked you twice to put me on ignore Please do not quote me. I will no longer quote you. Honestly, how hard is it? Let it go buddy

IMO we should not take a nearly 32 yo struggling for form this year, possibly squeezed out in a trade due to list reductions on a 2 year deal (remember Hawks have offered him 2). Two years ago, fine. Not now.

Came 3rd in preseason 2.2km Didn't figure in the 11 x 200m trials (Sam Frost did, ironically) Regardless, that's far from dominating. Stop making excuses as justification for claiming that you are 'correct'. Selective quoting to nit pick. You're getting back into some old bad habits Stop quoting me, I've asked you previously to put me on ignore. It's a simple request, difficult to misinterpret. TIA

Fallen away this year Turning 32 No longer dominating Hawks time trials List cuts would force him out, exactly why we shouldn't either No thank you Jack Gunston, on the other hand...