Moonshadow

Senior players want him out? Sidebottom, DeGoey? Not sure I'd listen to senior Filth players opinions

I'm sure you'll get over it..... eventually.

This logic implies Brown is a FA, which of course, he's not. I think the Cats will get Cameron regardless. They see a gun forward wanting to come to them, they get the deal done. Smith and Higgins will cost them nix. Why would a GF team with 3 late first rounders refuse to trade for a gun key forward that fills a need? Brown would be a compromise on what they could get. We don't have that luxury, unfortunately

Got to make it worth his while not to return to WA

I didn't say that. Your outrage is trying to put words into the mouths of others Weid is worth preserving with. Imo he has more upside than tmac. He's young, still developing and is more important to us long term (with Ben Brown) than tmac I will agree to disagree with you

The compo system is terrible. That we got 3 for Chip is a joke. That the Bummers get 7 for a guy that can't get on the park is stupid. That Hawks got 19 for Buddy was ridiculous. I know it's based upon the team ladder position, but that is arbitrary to the player's real value Get rid of compo. Completely.

Need 10 or lower to get McCrae if that's the target. Cameron might get matched, in which case Cats may meed to give up 13, 15 and maybe 20. Or a 3 way deal, eg cats get Jezza, GCS get 13, 15 and 20 (which will get pushed out further with academy bid matching), GWS get 5 Daniher at pick 7 is a joke. Cameron is worth 5, easy.

And our Hawks 2nd rounder at 23 just got pushed out to 25 with FA compo. Possibly 26 if Jezza to Cats compo comes through. And that's before academy or f/s bid matching. It will be 30-35 in the blink of an eye. If possible, I'd look to trade it in a bigger package to move up into single digit number at draft time. Our 2020 2nd, Preuss, Tmac and future 2nd or 3rd for GWS pick 9?

That would be Williams compo pick 10? Adelaide have GWS's first round pick 9

Yes, Danger spent most of the 3rd quarter chatting with the goal umpire. Their most damaging player. In the GF!

He'd be too much of a gamble. It's a NO from me.

Ok then. And I'm glad you aren't our list manager

Some have suggested that offloading tmac is more about having room in the cap for a bunch of re-signings next year, including Mr C Oliver, rather than fitting Brown in. Also, the Brown contract might be back loaded, though that seems out of favour these days, tmac being evidence where a struggling player gets big money late in their deal

What about tmac and future 2nd or 3rd rounder for Treloar and Philips. We pay Treloar inflated wage, they pay Tmac's inflated wage

Regardless of our pursuit of Smith, the real story here is the continuing fact that the FA system favours power clubs more than it does minnows. Clubs like us, Norf, Saints and WB will find it increasingly hard to supply flags and brown paper bags to entice stars The easy solution is to ban top 4 or top 6 clubs getting FAs, or force them to trade for them. Though I suppose short term player rights is more important than longer term competition equalisation...

You must be real fun at parties, Lefty

Apologies? Mate, you're not supposed to apologise when you get it wrong on Demonland. You should be making excuses and covering your tracks! BTW, I knew you were wrong all along. Smithy told me last week

Think Andy will have his finger hovering over the 'delete post' button here for a while! Keep posting evil doctor. Great that you can take it in your stride and not throw the toys out of the cot, unlike some others. Its certainly been a fun couple of days in this thread Youll get more hits than miss, I reckon

Like it Dazzle. I want Weid to get stronger through the hips and core. Not necessarily put on more weight, just get stronger so that he doesn't get pushed off the ball as easily. He has many good attributes that we underestimate, and is somewhat a confidence player. Presents well, gets to contests, can hold a grab (despite the naysayers) and knows where the cumbers are are around him. He knows his role, but must get stronger to improve it. Also needs to nail more set shots. All of these things are relatively simple to fix in the scheme of things, pending a big preseason. I'm a Weid fan, so to speak...

Settle down there, pal. That's a ridiculous comment, totally over-the-top. More like 100 goals, I'd say.... ?

If Brown kicks 50, a fit Weid will snag 40 and Jacko 25. Not to mention the small guys scouting around for crumbs. The flag is ours! Sorry, got ahead of myself....

Like this guy while playing for us? ?

But it is possible to 'turn the corner' Do that often enough and one can move forwards and go backwards