Moonshadow

If selected, this is the perfect opportunity for the Weid to make his mark. Two pedestrian games in R22 &23 will hurt his case. Heard Max say on the radio this morning that he thought Weid would get a call up. Time for him to step up.

Two main Melbourne papers reporting it is something, Wise. Of course Worsfold will play a straight bat, did you expect him to say they've reached agreement already? May amount to nothing. As I said, strange things happen in trade week. From The Age: "The Bombers are understood to have Greater Western Sydney midfielder Dylan Shiel on their radar with the coach trotting out a familiar line when asked about reports they were interested in the 25-year-old Giant." If we supposedly have $ in our cap for 2 stars, why not Shiel? Or are we just happy to let Essendon stroll past and snaffle him with ease? (yes, I know, that's probably hyperbole)

Bingo! Reports have Essendon in negotiations with Shiel. He's exactly what we need. Hogan to Freo, Freo first two picks (6 & 24) to GWS, Shiel to Dees. I do not want Hogan to leave, but sometimes strange things happen in trade week

Ah yes, the blazers. Didn't someone find one in an op shop down Frankston way a while back?

Just interviewed on Talking Footy. Very nervous, not a great speaker. Was asked about staying long term at the Dees. Gave the well rehearsed, straight bat response. He's Gawn!

I opened thinking this thread was about old dee's birthday

Go to your account (top right three horizontal bars) then ignored users, then type in "sir why you little", and select "yes". ? ?

God I love the ignore function

With his contract expiring in 14 months I'd say common sense would be to consider options rather than shouting outrage. If he re-signs, good. If not, what are some of the possible outcomes (apart from many on this thread crying in a foetal position)

Geez you're stubborn Wise! I said earlier, the line for untradable (whatever that means) should be Oliver and Gawn. And Hogan hasn't kicked 50 in a game (!) Or even 50 in a season yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, particularly with foot scans in play. I thought BAs suggestions plausible. To some extent, contracts mean zilch. GWS may want to retain The Rabbit or Whitfield, but if... if they want out a trade is likely. 'If' being the critical word. Apparently Gov jnr at Adelaide will be doing just that in October. Strange things happen at trade time. Hogan's current contract finishes in 14 months. We might be forced to trade him out. What is he realistically worth on the open market and what trade scenarios could be worked? Or shall we just keep our heads in the sand...

Unlikely as they've just signed Gov for 5 years at $385mill per season and the compo pick they'd get for Gaff would likely be around mid 1st round

Good suggestions BA

Wise, every club has very good players in contract that could still be traded. 'Actually available' is is a bit of a furphy. Technically, Hogan is contracted and not 'actually available', but here we are, discussing it! And it's worth noting that Hogan is not ready made, he still has major deficiencies that are currently preventing him from reaching near his peak. But the potential is certainly there. As I've said, I'd like to retain him and work on things he can improve, but in a year's time if his contract expires without re-signing, that may be moot. Look, just because Hogan is a young, key forward kicking 47 goals doesn't mean we can't have a reasonable conversation about his worth to the team and his value on the open market, especially given the yearly rumours. It's tiresome reading some posters outrage, belittling and name calling when these types of discussions arise. And yes, I know I'm no angel. ?

And if my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle. Playing injured us no excuse once the white line is crossed. If injured, rest him and play someone else. Clearly I'm not as wedded to keeping Hogan as some on here. I'd prefer to retain him, but if the price is right and he is having 2nd thoughts, let's do it. For this season, I'm more worried about the long bombs i50 and our inability to convert set shots.

That part I agree with.

Nice hyperbole Wise. If Hogan stalls to recommit and the right trade can be done, he is certainly tradable

I'd say Gawn and Clarry are the only two untouchables ATM. I'd rather keep Hogan, but if he was thinking twice about his future at the Dees and we could extract Cerra (or similar) and a good pick out of Freo, then why the hell not?

Even the Damien Barrett on afl.com.au can see clearly!

Irony

The Age has Cameron Schwab commenting on the late Alan Jeans' mental health issues during the year he coached Richmond 1992. Wonder if Jeans' family gave approval for him to discuss this publicly

I'm sure he'll be devastated.

Don't know Cards. But have you ever seen BBO and Campbell Brown together in the same room at the same time? Hmmmm......

Words of wisdom as usual Uncle. Press hysterics also wind up the outraged social media trolls.... Stalkerbook, Twits, The Gram.... even within the hallowed threads of Demonland!

Nah, it's still relevant. Posters just need to be respectful, which includes getting facts right.