demon3165

No, not because you disagree it's a fact Flower pound for pound was one of the best players going around, could include Wells, Alves and co....

Then you ain't seen the best then to compare then.

Rush that is not even the word for it, and you are right that will keep him from being up their with flower, the same goes for Oliver.

And unfortunately he did not need to be in that pack at that time, all the forwards flew for the same pill

It's called coaching, plan A plan A and plan A when all else fails go to plan A.

Yet someone was saying McVee was bad, I agree with you, might be worth a crack in the centre, has a football brain.

Because he is not a midfielder and never will be...

Langdon reminds me of a certain side that said we played bruise free football, that's him. Smith did alright with how we bring the ball in. Harmes just shake head has no natural football brain. ANB I think his main job is to get tackled to cause a ball up, time to go.

Looks like the sexyland blow up statues at training have gone down, now everyone runs in an arc again, come on folks blow them back up so to speak......

Let me guess we are the highest scoring side ....nup, the umpires.....nup, we are loading ......nup cannot wait for this explanation

And that's why harmes should never be in that side...

At the moment you are losing that then....

And how many games are we behind them? You can stick with stat's, I prefer to judge on what I see.

Easily explained over to you Simon https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/06/28/the-area-of-melbournes-game-that-will-haunt-them-in-september/

Why 21 is the starting point to look at, 22 bundled out straight sets, playing the same way in 23 how else are you meant to compare season on season to see where they have improved or gone backwards.

It is a damm hare job to do but in the context of 120 minutes of football players make way more mistakes than umpires in a game, the holding the ball rule is damm hard and yes I still wonder how a player with the ball has 3 players tackling him gets called holding the ball or incorrect disposal but that's the AFL problem to work it out, maybe play the 3rd man in rule, I know that's radical and still has it's problems in interpretation but it would be easier and have less packs, but in the end how many of us would be willing to do that job, nothing like being hated to 120 whatever they do. Also maybe 25 metres for short kicks instead of 15 to be paid?

Because maybe that's the problem then......

Only if they see it or deem it as not worth giving but it's no good everyone complaining about the umpires, so what's the answer is the question.

What is it about people blaming umpires yes they make mistakes, caught on the wrong side to see, think players are ducking ect, the crows blew it themselves in the second quarter full stop wasn't the umpires fault for the turnovers, sloppy kicks and handballs and the pies in the third, while I agree it's frustrating at times, then what's the answer get rid of the umpires and let the captains call it ....lol., they have a hard job, it's a quick moving contact sport, it's not easy to officiate.

Now only if the club had recruited a leading type of forward to fill that position instead of bombing the ball in and hoping for a pack mark.... oh wait.......................

Bit like Kossie to JVR last night?

Well AFLWL Melbourne side will be stronger for it then.

Didn't know the supporter base played for the club, when did they extend the playing list?

In my opinion kossie is not a midfielder, does not get enough of the ball to do damage, leave him in the forward line but in a different role should never go past CHF, they have to learn to ping the ball around to get it into the forward line in different angles, but we will just keep going down the line.

He was turned inside out though.