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6. Tyson. Wow 5. Jamar. Lots here owe him an apology. Took it up to one of the best in the business tonight and reminding a few how good he can be. 4. JKH. Just looked dangerous when it came near him 3. Cross. Would be higher but gave away a few soft free kicks. They were unlucky but still hurt. Love his hardness. 2. Viney. We are going to be very lucky in watching him tear it up more and more. 1. Not sure for one. Maybe Pedo for nothing more than a couple huge crunching tackles, a good goal and the way he patted that young doggy on the scone after frawley marked on him.

Haha oh no KDA. We have all been there, I would have bet my house on Cale becoming an all time great of our beloved MFC

Well Miss Deeko and I did the toad trip from Mildura to Melb last weekend for the game much to her horror (doesnt appreciate the sport). And today being Deeko's big three zero she has surprised me with some tickets to the game for me and a couple demon supporting mates. Shes driving us. What a keeper Come on Dees really would love a win as a present!

Didnt they merge with the thriving metropolis Ouyen?

Good points, but I just worry about some of our supporters over-rating our spine. The blues have Henderson and Jamison as two decent defenders and there Jekyl and Hide forward in Waite. You could say its better or worse than ours based on either of the two following approaches: Glass half empty = We still rarely have forwards on the park, have a CHB who can barely kick the pill and a full back who will more than likely leave after this season. Glass half full = Premiership playing CHF and an exceptional up and coming forward touted as the best of his age. A CHB who is continually improving and playing above his age and an All Australian fullback who's signing later this year is the start of things to come at the dees. But anyway, back onto the main point.... god I hate Carlton.

Surely he would be the one with the most currency but thats a big call Sassy. It would rip the heart out of a lot of players and supporters seeing there so called 'star' and captain being thrown on the trade table. How do you think we would react if Roos came out and said Nathan Jones will be traded at the end of this season for a key position player with lots of "potential"

From all the hype based around young Tommy I don't think that either of those trades would have gotten the deal done. I just don't rate anyone on Carlton's list. It could be the fact (and most likely is) that I am blind-sided by my hatred of them but there is no one, other than Marc Murphy, who I would really want. With Murphy as well, I'd only like him as the second/third midfielder as he isn't good enough to be a teams number 1 man and he is definitely not as good as Carlton believe he is. As for offering Kreuzer, they have done better with Mumford. And as for Gibbs.... weak as water with some good skills. The kids they have already offer more than him

Maybe you should care to enlighten us if what you think a great leader looks like and the attributes that he/she possess.

I'd say GWS looked at the options Carlton offered and would have just laughed.

Perfect post

Great work OD, really enjoyed the read. Did you notice Salem at all?

Oh come one guys, are you serious? Tyson has been probably our second best player this year FCS and I think he has showed so much to keep us excited. Kelly kicked a couple goals and looked good but have a little faith in our boy first. I still worry however looking at the Port vs Roos game. The Roos hit the lead and then guess who wins a couple 50/50's to get the ball back for the Power?? I'll give everyone a clue, his name starts with Ollie

We so desperately need a leader who will take the game by the scruff of the neck and power through the midfield and/or kick that clutch goal. I love Grimesy but for some reason he is going backwards more so this year. I love Jonesy (and I know he was injured today) but he will never be more than a good B grade mid. What we would give for a Jobe, a Joel, a Gaz or a Pendles. I don't know why anyone would want to come to us other than the almighty $$$ but once Danger comes out of contract I would throw everything we have at him as I can't see us getting anyone else and we definitely don't know how to develop them.

Obviously looking at the votes today Watts did more than I noticed. Anyways.... 6. Tyson 5. Pederson 4. Georgiou 3. McDonald 2. Cross 1. Dunn

Fully agree Cudi. Without Ablett they would beat the Suns now

I'm more interested in this game then I am in the ones as I have no faith we can kick a winning score and the Giants. This game however has interest. Looking forward to seeing how the two lads perform after being dropped. Also want to see if the so called 'senior players' like Tappy, Jamar etc decide to pull there fingers out of there backsides and get fair dinkum.

The disposal difference is amazing

Shows a couple interesting things. First is wow the hawks are a great team and I'm scared to play them. The second point is how injuries ( or suspensions) to key players destroy teams. I tipped freo for the flag and still have faith if they get there they will give it a shot.

I have high expectations also but to expect anything more with the squad we had on the park last week against there's would be silly. The Eagles will take some serious beating this year and with our decimated list we were never going to get close. We put in a similar effort to what we did against the Saints just fortunately for us they are awful as well, just not quite as awful.

I needed to kill some time so I have made up a pointless visual comparing what we are missing against other teams 'Best 22.' The squads were named by the Hun earlier this year in which I have just copied and pasted. Tell me how we would go against the following teams if we were to take out there 3 key forwards, two best ruckman, best young midfielder and second best defender. Hopefully you can all work out who I am referring to there: The 'Champion' Hawkers outfit would look like: B: Stratton Lake Burgoyne H: Suckling ???? Birchall C: ???? Mitchell Hill HF: Breust ???? Rioli F: Puopolo ???? ???? R: ???? Lewis Hodge Int: Shiels, Whitecross, Schoenmakers, Sewell Removed: Gibson, Rough, Hale, Gunston, McEvoy, Smith + another ruckman needs to removed. How would we fair with our best 22? I always think we should be at a similar place to the tiges as we were bottoming out around the same stage and both known at one stage as a couple teams with young promising lists. The Tiges: B: Morris Rance Grimes HB: Newman ???? Houli C: Deledio Dusty ???? HF: ???? ???? Conca FF: Lennon ???? King R: ???? Cotchin Vlastuin INT: Jackson, Foley, Grigg & Thomas Removed: Ellis, Chaplin, Vickery, Riewoldt, Edwards, Hampson & Maric We would pump this outfit. Finally, the Eagles: B: Glass Brown Yeo HB: ???? Mackenzie Schofield C: ???? Priddis Hurn HF: Masten ???? Wellingham FF: ???? ???? ???? R: ???? Selwood Shuey INT: Rosa, Sheed, Hill, Hutchings Removed: Gaff (Viney), LeCras, Kennedy, Darling (our 3), Cox and NicNat. Anyway, it's just a visual to see how weak these teams would be without there quality that we are missing and why some people here should please restrain themselves from throwing in the towel. So don't give up yet and keep the faith!

Ah, not quite. I wish we went on hype then we may not have made random selections such as Gysberts & Cook

Changes = minimal Roos was never big on making large changes from one week to the next. Look at the team we pumped the Swans by 70 odd points the week after.... it was the same. I'm not interested in bringing in a half fit Viney, Jamar or Garland either if they are not ready. Same goes for Gawn. They are all in my best 22 but lets wait till they are fit and firing before they come back in. It's hard to be patient I know but we are not playing for September this year. He has to keep a similar team week after week and get some confidence back in the group. They are coming from so far back and they have to learn each others game and get some spark back. It will come.

My three words in comparison to this game last year. "We are better" edit: Unfortunately so were they

G'day Demonland Can you explain to the 'simple minded folk' like myself how the voting works? Is it an average of votes or total? Cheers bud

I like the post Maldonboy but I worry about these two just not being good enough either. Blease not enough of the pill and Evans no good when he gets the pill. I'm happy sticking with Trenners and Toump as I still have faith in them.