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Jeez the picture of him for the article doesn't look great. I'm not trying to derail the conversation to mitigate his own personal choices, at the end of the day he had free will to make his own path, but our club at the time was such a disgrace and I really did think we had a player with him. He absolutely killed it in the final against the Saints, he racked up possessions easy and was a decent kick of the footy. He should've been a long term top player for us, instead we brought in the tanking culture to go on top of an already poor club culture. He went to Carlton, which to me smacked of arrogance when talking with distain about the tanking attitudes at Melbourne. Carlton were just as bad as us, they just did it early enough to not cop any sanctions.

That is honestly one of the dumbest things I’ve heard from a politician, right up there with Trump. So his answer is that the entire competition and put all other 16 clubs into a quarantine hub just to suit his states rules and TWO of 18 clubs. What a muppet.

I actually really love the fact he wears his helmet mainly for his mum. The studies done on wearing helmets show minimal (if any) assistance to persistent concussion issues, but he wears it because he knows his mum worries.

Perhaps in years to come we will get more of an inside scoop on it, it would potentially make an interesting (if horrific) documentary. Geelong were bloody good and we were bad, but 186 points? Nah. There were gangrenous rots in the club which created it, those in charge didn't solve the problem (in fact they made it worse). I look back on those years and actually wonder how the club managed to survive. We were an embarrassment to the competition.

You would have to imagine that when full training resumes the club would be using Casey as the primary training base. May not have the same access to facilities, plus it's a decent distance from the city but it would be the best opportunity for the club to have a controlled environment.

He's already on the list whether he fully recovers from this latest injury or not. I have my fingers and toes crossed for him. Will be interesting to see how those recovering go when they return back, I'm sure they've done mountains of work to get back to health but getting minutes into them in match simulation will be key to see if they can handle return to matches.

It sucks for the WA and SA clubs but you'd imagine in oder to give them compensation for having to do hubs they will try to give them long runs at home leading to the end of the season. I still think it's an overreaction by the WA and SA governments to impose such strict situations on AFL clubs, but at the same time I get it. Both states have prevented outbreaks, while WA in particular has vulnerable communities that could cause massive problems. Health trumps professional sport. I wonder if the AFL has put forward to both States a mini hub of their own, as both states have low amounts of cases could the WA/SA clubs play each other first. Then thats at least three games, maybe over a week and a half/2 week period that they aren't in a hub.

Only thing I can surmise with North wanting more games (in a shortened season) in Tassie is a competitive advantage with knowing how to play the conditions there. I’m just wondering if perhaps we might consider doing two back to back games in Alice Springs, particularly if crowds are allowed back up there. Against say Bulldogs, Saints, Sydney etc though. I get sick of them sending Adelaide and Perth teams there when they have the existing support.

Watching it right now, such a funny moment for Wiz’s 6th goal. A great grab by Jeff to deny Robbo taking a speckie! So much excitement in that forward line.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-coronavirus-covid19-updates-latest-afl-news-return-to-play-date-testing-gillon-mclachlan/news-story/b30aecd9389a8a48a68b87fc27be0ece I’m not sure if this has already been discussed but with the NT pushing their case saying they can have crowds I wonder whether (like the Suns) we’re pushing to still play our usual Alice Springs game this year. Would people here be supportive of it?

Hehe a big penalty will go a long way towards easing the supposed Vic-bias tensions!

How many weeks would he get these days? Hird continued playing so that would count for him, my guess 2-3 weeks still. Great goal though.

We've had questionable development over the years, but zero doubt this was ridiculously poor recruiting. A ready to go gun (and Viney best mate) vs a project player, and over the years I never really saw anything that made me think he'd anything worth a top 5 pick.

No way in hell should we be missing out on spoils for next year from the Queens Birthday and ANZAZ eve. As has been very smugly reported by Tigers and Pies head honchos they are two of the clubs that had there been no season they would've been ok, so clearly we need it more. The worst we should accept is shared spoils from both games next year with us getting the home match the following year.

Salem really did play the "super sub" role that night, I think most of the time coming on as a sub meant they had very little impact but Salem was awesome. He smothered, he tackled, and most importantly he kept a cool head when needed most.

Blues were a rabble but at least they had a home and facilities to show off, we had a construction site. And yes I agree that the $$$ got him to Carlton, but we had very little to offer.

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I might be wrong about this but I was under the impression that even in the training in 10's model there is still no equipment allowed to be shared, this includes a footy. I could be completely wrong on that though.

Is that really on the table? I would've thought having that one round in the bag opens the door for more options for the AFL, only reason I could see them removing it is if they decide that in unbalances the Home vs Away games for each club. As an aside to that, would one option the AFL table maybe be (as a way to avoid unfair advantages that the WA clubs keep sooking about) to actually try to create as many neutral games. ie play Melbourne vs WC in Adelaide, WC vs Sydney in Melbourne etc Obviously you then play Melbourne vs Pies at the G, WC vs Freo in Perth. This then eliminates the potential of certain clubs getting unfair home ground advantages. Imagine the uproar from the cats fans! ?

This will be an interesting one to see the final result. I'm just old enough to remember how good Todd Viney was, at the moment he just edges out Max but I think by the end of their careers Gawny will have the chocolates. Hopefully edged out by Max being a premiership captain! ?

Loved Jimmy; heart and soul player, great athlete, worked hard to get his skills up to scratch, and simply a club legend. On Jonesy, for someone who has the knock of not great skills he's kicked some absolutely cracking goals over his career. Maybe people will argue he was the cream that rose to the top during an awful period but I think that's disrespectful to his guts, endeavour, and underrated abilities. One's a champion, the other is a legend.

Schwartz could've been our Wayne Carey, once in a generation type player. His knee reco's reduced his overall impact over his career so for me it has to go to Neitz. What a great combo they were though! (Slightly off topic, I can't work out why we haven't got either of them as kicking coaches at the club. Both of them had awesome technique and penetration on them!)

All three Brayshaw's? Sure I'd take that.

I understand the WA fans having a bit of a sook, especially as the AFL prevented the WA clubs from training in larger groups (I still don't know what authority they actually have to control that). Each state's teams were going to come across their own advantages and disadvantages, fact is that surely at some point WC and Freo will have to have an extended stay on the Eastern seaboard because if they are going to play games every 4-6 days where exactly are they going to have the time to train and recover if they keen flying back to WA. My thoughts are that the WA government already have an in principal agreement with the WA clubs to let them and interstate fly in-fly out, but they are trying to get some leverage to gain their own advantages/deals before officially agreeing to it.

I actually don't blame him for that, we were a rabble at the time, we brought him to tour AAMI Park before it was built. We really didn't have anything positive to offer him, still sickens me he chose the Blues though. VISY ambassador my [censored].