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I can only imagine the FD have demanded that he back it up again this week, it may be as SWYL has suggested they are really making him earn his spot rather than getting it by default. If he has another good performance in whatever version of a scratch match they are doing this week (any word on that?) but gets overlooked again I will be very confused. Especially if Jacko isn't very impactful.

I'm not going to say he set the world on fire the whole time, certainly Geelong was a level above, but the rest of the games he played his role well with very good patches.

Hore might be unlikely for the rest of the year if he keeps getting these injuries. Might be best to just put him on ice for the year and have him focus on 2021.

Weid played well from his games vs WC in 2018 to the Hawks Final. 4 games in a row.

100% agree with this, without Tom having an impact this year I can't see us being much more than a bottom 6 side. Only way that doesn't happen is if someone else pops up out of nowhere to take Tom's place as key forward.

There seems to be a habit between these two sides of the underdog winning in recent years, we're the underdog this year so maybe that could be a good sign.

It's going to be interesting to see how much game time they give to Harley this week. Perhaps longer stints in the forward line as "rests". For me they shouldn't be bringing in two players that fitness wise are underdone, so I think they see Vanders as being able to actually last longer than HB.

Exactly, we kept giving kids a taste and games on the back of "he's got great talent" for way too long, if Jackson isn't being picked because he is PLAYING BETTER than Weids then I can't get behind the FD logic.

Fair enough, is Jackson earning his spot too? Honestly from what I've seen the answer is no.

I've signed it because it would drive the Pies faithful mad and make Eddie spit chips. But having said that, they entered the competition with a team that was already wearing black and white stripes that felt strongly it was linked to their identity, so they sought to protect it. Port signed a contract saying that they wouldn't wear the prison bars strip, those were the terms they accepted. I can tell you right now if they wore red yolk and navy blue in their SANFL days, agreed to the terms they have with the Pies and then decided "actually no we're going to do this instead" I'd be unhappy about it. A side note to add though, it wouldn't be the first professional sporting league in the world to have two clubs with similar strips. They're unique in their own way so for me it doesn't make a huge difference.

So I'm a little annoyed about Weid not getting picked this week but it could be they are thinking about the conditions and one wrap on Jackson that I will give to the FD is that his is good below his knees. But if Weid puts in another strong showing and gets overlooked again they might as well start to paint over his locker because whether we would want him to remain would be moot. He'd go. As for who comes remains on that bench, personally my choice would be: Pickett, Jackson, AvB, Smith ANB unlucky but Pickett is the similar sort of player and runs hard while providing a spark. If AvB is fit enough to be picked as an emergency then he's fit enough to be played and Jones was poor last week, a swift kick up the bum could be good for the former captain. Jackson stays as a back up ruckman and because this appears to be the route the FD are taking with him, he needs to show more than last week though. Smith stays as another lucky one. I feel like conditions helped him to keep his spot, OMac can be quite lumbering in the wet, this gives Smith a second opportunity to prove he deserves a spot. If he keeps flying at the ball and TMac is having another stinker then I would really like to see them swap positions.

All for this, what has Jackson done to earn his spot? Hardly set the world on fire in the pre-season games, I'm bemused that we are pushing him so early in his development on the back of what exactly?

I have feeling Oliver could have a day out against Essendon, this isn't based on anything in particular but Oliver has proven he hasn't lost his ability to find the ball. Petracca is turning heads now, which means the tag will comes. Instead of dragging the tagger away from the ball and playing Trac in the forward line I'd like to see him say to Goodwin, "leave them to me" and back himself to beat the tag.

The one thing I would point out is that we were absolutely murdering Carlton in the first quarter, if that had been full length I honestly feel like we would've been 10 goals in front. Quarter time was a massive blessing to them as it gave Teague a chance to talk with them to restructure and restart. Impossible to know how they would've reacted to being that far behind at that stage.

The interesting thing right now is that we really have a close to full list to choose from so this should be an opportunity for players to push pressure on their peers to force their way into the team. Interesting the Oscar wasn't mentioned in that article, might indicate that they will persist with Smith (god help us if he keeps going for stupid speckies). AvB is in our best 22 if fit, so the question comes when do they decide he's fit? I agree with the idea that we can't carry two players who will be on half game time so until AvB is up to being able to play closer to 70% he might not find a way in.

I think Fritch could be looked at to fill what Melksham was doing a couple of years ago should Jake continue to produce low results. Still I'm also happy for us to persist with him deeper, should've had at least two more goals.

It shouldn't be Smith's role to be going up as the third man there, Lever is the intercept defender, if May is bollocking his player properly to keep him out of the contest (legally of course) then it should set Lever up for an easy mark. Smith is then at ground level in case the ball goes to ground to mop up. Those shots I hope were very highly looked at by the backline because it's just laughable seeing our three KP defenders spoiling each other.

And I'll just add I'm not saying what I said to be callus, I really wish the best for him but as you've said his health is so much more important and it looks from the outside as though the club is doing all they can to help him with this.

The silence is deafening with KK, I honestly think we’re keeping him on the list because it makes little difference either way to us and at least he then has access to doctors who can help him. No updates at all over the last 6-8 months surely means little progress is being made.

If Tom puts in another woeful performance he can’t escape the chop or at the very least a positional change. I’d like to see him play much more mobile this week, do the classic of “getting him into the game” by getting higher up the park. The problem with that is that it leaves us short which is why I think Weids needs to come in a play as a natural forward, very minimal if any ruck time. If Tom is putting in a stinker, I’d really like Goodwin to swing a change with Smith going forward and Tom into defence.

Might not be on the same extreme as you but I wouldn't disagree, if we're picking with a ruthless attitude than Jones shouldn't be dropped in front of ANB. Jones is another player like any else, and has to contribute or expect to be dropped. Melksham I think is just ahead of Jones because he provides a little more structurally.

It looks awkward, I think at some point one of the players was doing a cheer of some kind and someone else got excited thinking it was the start of the song and it rolled from there. Really though they shouldn't be leaving the ground without Gawn leading them off. He's the captain, surely that's obvious to them. Hopefully it won't be long before they have an opportunity to do it properly!

So I just had a look at the footage off the website, it's still not the greatest look but Gawn doesn't look too unhappy about it. Aside from it not being sung with as much gusto they all sang it together. Let's move on.

Was just about to ask the same thing. Maybe he felt he was forced to retire early, I know there were a few that felt that way in that period. I was as unhappy with everyone with the way we capitulated after half time (and you could see the signs in the second quarter), but I can't see Goody not seeing out his contract until at least mid-next year regardless of the results for the rest of the year.

Interesting Salem got a vote, surely must be from Goodwin. Clearly he did something we didn't notice. Well done to Trac, well deserved. This will be a year he has complete games, this one wasn't it but that first quarter was a blinder.