binman

Twenty, twenty, twenty four hours a daaay, i wanna be quoted

The players are desperate to get it over and done with - so much so, according to the article by Grant Baker, have eschewed the idea of going to 'the AAT and Federal Court route — where players can test whether there is sufficient evidence for a possible anti-doping rule breach to have occurred — has been ruled out.'which will 'expedite matters by a year or more.' Well lets see how sincere EFC and in particular James Hird is about this being all about the players and their best interests. As Baker points out: 'A decision by Hird or Essendon to appeal Justice Middleton’s ruling that ASADA’s joint probe with the AFL into the club was lawful would delay any hearing of the players’ cases.' #moneywherethemouthistime

indeed after all they're actully doing the supportive thing in welcoming Clark on board. Such saints

Did i go to early with my choice of avatar?

Source?

I really think the most likely scenario is that we put some time and effort into him to help get into shape in order to be able to return and that there was likely some loose understanding if he could get back he would come to us as rookie with perhaps some triggers for putting him on the list (eg 8 good games at VFL level) - a gentleman's agreement if you will. Lets say that hypothetical is correct the next one is his manager doing some quiet shopping around and being pleasantly surprised other clubs might in fact put him straight him their list and pay him good coin. Which would be tempting however would likely leave MFC aggrieved if indeed there was some verbal agreement. I would also guess the MFC will have lost some respect for MC for the way he gone about this (as have i). I mean the only comment from Clark thus far was that he would love to come back to Melbourne; next thing his manager is talking about his preferred preference being a club in premiership contention, with the idea of returning to the dees not even in the frame. But i agree the feeling is now mutual. Given the MFC would obviously have the best intel on whatever issues he may have experienced or is experiencing you can assume they are in the best position for assessing the risk versus reward equation and probably figure keeping stum and not fighting for him (certainly not getting involved in any bidding war) is the way to go.

...and I suppose we're supposed to be grateful he wants us to get a good deal. I'd laugh if we forced him into the draft, if for no other reason then to shaft his moronic manager

Funny. It is now a given he is off. The only thing he owes dees fans is an explanation

Riders nick name should be Night

I'd block Picket but he's just too much fun to read

I agree. His go is an in an under mid who starts in the centre. He's got good hands, good vision and reads the ball well. His pace is only a worry in so far as it is an issue across the team. Whilst you def need a few players with genuine pace (eg Jetta) and a good number who are pretty quick (eg Cunningham) pace you don't need all players to be quick. Have a look at all the top teams - they have a blend. A good comparison would be Priddis - one of the best in and under accumulators in the league who as he pointed out himself on Brownlow night is slow as a wet week

My sources tell me Danger is in the bag! A caveat - my sources are DL posters

Fair call, hope did deliver us Paul. But I still don't really believe he is our coach

According to the afl we are improving and doing just great. That should be enough for frawley

Really as a demons fan i meet hope every off season. Last off season hope was banging on about one of the leagues strongest forward lines. I can tell you hope is not once failed to let me down.

For god's sake can someone please post a legit sounding rumor confirming we are going to get Danger! I don't care if it is bollocks by the way.

Speaking of Monty Python and the 'I am not the messiah routine' i linked on previous page, perhaps it should go like this: Player: I am not a drug cheat ASADA crowd: Only a true drug cheat would deny their drug use Player: What? Alright i am a drug cheat! ASDA crowd: He is a drug cheat, he is a drug cheat!!

I know i'm preaching to the converted but honestly it staggers me that some still don't get it. Tim Watson has been saying how all the other clubs are just pushing EFC and the players to resolve this but says 'what would you do, take a deal even if you know you are not guilty'? (or words to that effect). Who's saying they have to take a deal to resolve it? As someone noted they also have the option of showing cause why they shouldn't be placed on the register of findings and if that fails challenge the infraction notices and charges at the AFL drug tribunal. Simple. Issue resolved either way (ie guilty or not guilty) The implication from the EFC camp is that it is a fait acompli they will be found guilty in an objective (presumably somewhat sympathetic) forum. Now why is that? There is is another thing that really frustrates me. You watch the (dwindling) Hird media lackeys running the line about how unfair it is the players have to prove their innocence. I actually have some sympathy with that view however that is how the game is played, they are the rules. EFC should have been 100% aware of this and factored this fact into their decision making process when designing their supplement program. The question to Hird and Dank from the board should not have simply been 'are any banned drugs being used' it should have been 'are any banned drugs being used or is there any risk that even if the answer is no that ASADA may be able to make a circumstantial case we have which we can't disprove (eg by meticulous record taking and total control of supply chains and administration of the drugs)'. Basic risk management. If they didn't ask this question then more fool them and whilst the players have a right to be disgruntled it should be focused on the club not ASADA or external bogeymen (or should that be bogeypersons - Caro says hi) with vendettas against Hird. What did EFC actually think they were signing up to when they agreed to abide by the WADA code?

Me too. Pick 2 and 3 for Danger and their pick 10 would be great. I understand the view that there is a big opportunity cost with that call (though offset somewhat if you think pick 10 ends up being comparable to pick 3 - a relatively common scenario) but i for one am sick of not having an out an out mid field star. I should couch that by saying that by dint of hard work Jones is now up there (and it is ridiculous that with this numbers he didn't make the AA team, or the squad at the least) but Danger is one of the bets 10 players in the league and one of my favorites. I would love him at the dees and he would instantly bring our mid field (by far are weakest area) up a couple of rungs and therefore dramatically increase our chances of winning games. The other thing is as Roos recognises we don't have the luxury of drafting a potential gun and waiting 4-5 years for him to get to AA level (which is what we need). We need to win some games and we need a player like Danger who can come in and make an impact straight away. Do it.

Yep - and roos has made this point abundantly clear. I expect that all of our new players will be mids

I prefer the Life of Brian Paradox

Reminds me of hasish

that's not true at all. Why do you think writers use quotation marks if not to make clear that this what the interviwee has said.

yep sorry, blame it on the smart phone

Fascinating radio doco on ABC 1026 about the efc saga with Tracy Holmes. Just interviewed Hardie who is adamant judgement is 100% wrong and that third must appeal and he thinks he will not just for his own rep but for all athletes in oz!