binman

You really are relentless in your negativity. Given saty is not posting I feel obliged to respond to your nonsense post. What bad habits? The only reason jetts was the rookie list was his wretched run with injuries. He has always been a top trainer, played his role and a player who is 100% commited. He was terrific in the vfl when there and forced his way back into the side with his incredible consistency and by don't of hard work. If you think he has suddenly come good after being average you are clueless

I agree on both counts. I reckon viney fly's under the radar on DL in terms of avoiding criticism - perhaps because everyone loves his spirit and hard at it grunt (as do I). But he didn't have a great year (which is OK, he's only young). Really needs to improve his kicking.People seem to love comparing the toumps progress with wines. Few seem to measure viney against wines. At this stage he is a fair way behind

Salem miles ahead of the toump? Miles? Funny how people can judge players so differently. He's not soft either - or at least that's my opinion

As was i

8th 103.2%

I'd say Jones (who is A grade), Tyson and Vince (both top shelf but not quite A grade).

Well i don't make the call. And as i say i expect the club will go 2 mids. But if it were up to me me i would also go the 2 best mids. So i would amend your comment to it's TALENT TALENT TALENT TALENT (mids)! Out of interest, of the top of your head who was the last top 3 draft pick who was/is a KPP and has performed at the level you'd hope for from a top 3 pick (ie a total gun).

Yep. I am positive we will draft two mids with pick 2 and 4. As you say 10 - 13 mids is what is required and 6 of them have to be top shelf. I agree we only have six genuine mids and only 3 are top shelf. As Demoneyes says mids, mids, mids....that is all folks!

Source?

On the contrary i think he will have had a sense of where he sits. If you ran a poll on DL i'm sure there'd be lost of posters who would say he would be worth only a 25 plus draft pick. But if GNF's mail is right (and i for one believ him) his real market vale appears to be 10 - 15 and Roos values him top 10. Roos rates Watts. That should give him a big shot of confidence. We all know his deficiencies, in particular his unwillingness to always commit to the contest but as we also know we seriously lack class and most of all lack players with elite disposal skills (and vision for that matter). He is our classiest player and by far the best, most damaging kick in the team. By far. He also rarely misses by hand. Look at how many of our scoring chances are set up by his kicks and handballs. Perhaps if we had 12 players like the Hawks who were elite kicks Watts might be surplus to needs. But we don't. I would argue we have one. Watts. Hopefully Salem and the Toump will get there (and any new recruits) but as if Roos would get rid of our best kick. Hawthorn won the premiership in large part because of their incredible kicking skills that dissect zones and flooding. Once again Clarkson saw where footy was going and traded accordingly. Roos is as good as Clarkson.

I'm keeping him.

Is this another riddle?

Funny how some DL posters think we had a woeful trade period and some dispassionate objective observers think we did well. Jay Clark rated us a distinction (using a fail, pass, distinction scale)

Do you ever get tired of making ridiculous over the top statements (we are the worst,sack Mahoney blah, blah, blah)? Rhetorical question I guess

H has elected to come to the dees. He's alright by me.

I thought it had something to do with 186

Exactly how i feel. There is 24 hours to go (the magical Wednesday 3pm deadline being a mirage). However if we go to the draft with 2 and 3 i'll re-calibrate my thinking and dream about finally landing a genuine A grader (or even 2- be still my beating heart!). If roos wants Brayshaw he's got him!

Happy to take the balme for not getting Danger (which has all gone quiet!) - but not Joey PS if we get Joey i have first dibs on him as my avatar

Or my avatar

And still no comment from MC to the fans who supported him so whole wholeheartedly. Nothing. Nada. Zip. To be honest that is what i find so disappointing. Take the motion out of it and players change clubs. As i have said he doesn't owe the club anything, no more than the clubs owes something to someone like Clisby who we cut or to contracted players we may soon sack. But i reckon he does owe something to demons fans. He owes us some sot of explanation. Something more than 'yeah i would love to play for the dees again' and then complete media silence. That is what has made me lose respect for him.

you really believe what balme says? Its near the end of the trade period. They have outstanding trades. He's yge footy manager. Pfft

I 100% agree. We need to win some games. Not just to get some momentum going or to keep fans happy. But also to be a club tat has some hope of attracting free agents and the new free agent - any player coming out of contract (or just plain unhappy players for that matter). The window of opportunity to do the old style rebuild has slammed shut. The time is now.

Don't laugh. The way Watts gets bagged on DL i reckon there'd be plenty of support for that trade!

A funk soul brother? Oh, and shouldn't it be the School of Hard Knox?

Shall i keep my avatar until then?