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Yeah cos you know, everyone is talking about how good our depth is this year........

Agreed. But what I would say is those guys should not be on our list as if/when we get these stars those guys will be the first to go to make room on the list and the order shuffles down. As much as I love guys like Cross, Garland, Grimes, Jamar, Pedo etc, we need to realise that THEY are the ones who will be the depth players when we have a decent list.

Technically I was having a whinge about the whingers, so I guess it's the correct thread...

Where does this end?! We can't trade them for each other now. Toumpas wasn't a surprise pick, he was taken where he was expected to be. The only purpose any of this serves is for whingers like WYL to fill Demonland with more complaining and ridiculous conspiracy theories. Seeing names like Morton, Scully, and Neeld show up in this thread just shows what a bunch of sooks 'Land has become.

Good old WYL. We'll win a flag one year and all you be doing is still complaining about the past. Let it go pal.

And you ain't no fortune teller...

Has had a long time out with injuries, came back early with not much preparation due to said injuries, had a sensational game. You're both incredibly wrong.

I really don't think any of those guys are a big enough step up from what we have.

We need a big forward and a good ruck, Wright is both of those things. Plenty of mids who were drafted turned out no good either, terrible logic. Tell me who this great ruck is who isn't getting a regular game somewhere and will take over from Jamar/Spencer? Name some.

1. I know that. You will notice I said we take best available. 2. Agree to a point. But a good ruckman will help us with our extremely poor rate of clearances, and a ruckman that can truly play forward is gold. 3. Any type of good player MIGHT be acquired later in the draft or by other means. As I've said, Wright is a TRUE forward/ruck. 4. Read up about Wright, he's very mobile for a big man. 5. How do you know that? Misson doesn't even know that, hence "indefinitely". Then he may even go home next year anyway. From the AFL site: "Wright is a 203cm forward/ruckman who has outstanding goalkicking skills, can mark well on the lead, and likes to roam up the ground where he has rucked at different stages."

Wright is the likely number 1 pick and is a true ruck/forward swingman type. He's a big unit who's ready to play straight up. Can't pass him up! Would give us a decent succession with Jamar and Spencer doing the job while Gawn develops, then Gawn becoming the senior ruck while Wright develops and they share the role.

We've lost Clark, Hogan is a mystery, Jamar is nearing the end, Spencer is not AFL standard, Gawn is another mystery... No way do we pick midfielders over KPPs if they are best available (Peter Wright).

If we don't trade them.... Brayshaw and Goddard But I'd rather trade them.

This is my draft target. Peter Wright. "VICTORIAN key tall Peter Wright has been dubbed better than Joe Daniher as Melbourne and Carlton eye a forward line saviour in Novembers draft. " Victorian Peter Wright dubbed better than Joe Daniher as Melbourne, Carlton eye forward saviour

Not nearly enough talk about Peter Wright in this thread. Find that staggering.

Best. GIF. Ever.

Do you actually research at all before posting? It's kind of like thinking before you talk. Try it sometime. LeCras has had an injury riddled year, but just for comparison sake let's compare him with Betts for you: Disposals Goals Marks Tackles LeCras 16 1.8 5.1 3.1 Betts 10.7 1.6 2.6 2.9

Damn right we are, you won't leave me alone...

I'm guessing it would cost the same as getting Betts... Especially seeing as Carlton wouldn't want to give up they're only performing forward. Tell you what mate, if Le Cras doesn't play well this year I'll change my name here to stupid for a month, if he does then, well you won't have to change yours as it's synonymous with stupidity.

Haha who said anything about paying millions? Yeah let's just pass on a superstar cos he's coming back from an injury 18 months before we'd go after him... They're both the same age, but Betts has been the sole true forward option for a decent performing team and Le Cras for a very poor but then very good team. In their last 3 seasons Betts has kicked 150, Le Cras has kicked 168. As a crumbing forward i don't think the ACL he's coming back from (after having the full operation and recovery, no short cuts) will hinder him like it would a high leaping big forward. If you look at their output there's not a huge difference, so to bag someone's footy knowledge for edging out Le Cras over Betts is stupidity, which is your usual standard.

Can't see Milne having a positive effect on our culture. Le Cras would be my pick out of those 3, if he was in a Vic team he would get even more attention and be classed a no-doubt superstar.

Saw most of the Geelong game(s)... Riv looked good. Same stuff he's always done but now he has a good midfield around him to link up with. Will be very handy for the Cats.

Let it go mate. It was barely funny to begin with but it's bordering on harassment now. Seriously.