Demon17

45 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Great game from Gus tonight. Hunt did a great job on Tippa as did Hibbo on Stringer. JJ and Sparrow continue to impres.The forward line needs a rethink.

Spot on. Gus 's best game for the year. Hit targets. Made spoils. Courageous.  Helped out defence 

2 hours ago, praha said:

Well that was the least amount of time I've spent trying to get tickets. Which is strange given the reduced capacity. In and out by 9:03am. AFL Members, level 1 undercover. 

Thsi is interesting.

Does it indicate the Bombers arent coming out in droves and locking away the public capacity???   Could be a vociferous Demons supporter numbers??

12 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

I reckon the footy dept. disagrees with you and so do I. As far as Ben goes there is no rush at the moment.

Also a good weather forecast - based selection.

When Ben Brown gets a next chance at least give the guy a fair go on at least a dry-ish day.   Playing him in possibly wet conditions will tell him and the coaches nothing on his role and capacity.

2 hours ago, BW511 said:

Big risk carrying him as medical sub, but can appreciate the sentiment

he would be in the frame though if fit.

Not a bad thought has he can fill roles and is versatile.  Except  ruck of course.

21 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Trivia question:

When was the last time Essendon won a final without Kevin Sheedyas coach?

Clue:

Kevin Sheedy had only recently started playing at the time.

A fantastic question - and insightful.

I reckon its 1968?   Prelim Final vs Cats  . Then lost GF to Blues.

Coached by the great ken fraser I think. 

53 Years - and counting.

12 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

The club website says no visitors tickets will be sold for the game

Still MCC Level 1 tickets available.

3 hours ago, roy11 said:

Somehow ranked beneath a visitor's pass of a Full/Restricted Member.

Don't think any visitor passes should have gone on sale FWIW

The club website says no visitors tickets will be sold for the game

2 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

The MCC has noted that the 25% limit applies to the members reserve,  approx 6000.  Reserve capacity is 25,000.

And of those 6000, most will be Dees supporters. 

Quote off the MCC website.,

"...Under the measures announced by the Victorian Government, stadiums in Victoria will be permitted to operate to a maximum of 25,000 patrons at each game of this weekend’s AFL Round 15 matches. The Members’ Reserve capacity will sit at 25 per cent..."   and

"...members can reserve a ticket for themselves but will not be able to purchase visitor tickets...."

1 hour ago, Flower Magic said:

This is information that the MCC did not consider worth sharing.

The MCC has noted that the 25% limit applies to the members reserve,  approx 6000.  Reserve capacity is 25,000.

And of those 6000, most will be Dees supporters. 

1 hour ago, Big Col said:

I don't know if it's been said before, but I fail to see the point of crowd limit percentage at games when they just crowd everyone into one part of the ground and keep entire other sections of the ground closed.

If games are at limited to 50% capacity then open the entire ground so that the crowd is spread out. Given you have to pre-book a seat, couldn't you just leave one space between every booking party as a minimum - so that no-one is sitting next to a stranger? Perhaps when you book each seat it also removes from play the equivalent number of seats that are near you?

Under the Covid Plan,  to have 20% spread across the whole MCG would mena that all 100,000 seats would ne cleaning after the event. Just on eissue to consider re: Logistics.  

3 hours ago, Spargonicus said:

18,000 vs 1,500? Is that the proportional difference in our member numbers? ;-)

Most of MCC will be demon supporters

2 hours ago, Kent said:

to the best of my knowledge being vaccinated doesn't prevent you getting Covid nor passing it on.

Correct. Keeps you out of serious effects and hopefully hospital.

On 6/19/2021 at 12:04 PM, Kent said:

So does TMac run him up and down the ground to break him?

How do we make him accountable?

I have no idea.  But I'm betting Adem Yze does.  Stewart is key to their defence so putting a lot of time into scenarios will pay off.

22 hours ago, Jaded said:

Agreed. We are not a bottom 4 side experimenting during a rebuild for goodness sake.

A PREMIERSHIP is at stake. We won't make any structural changes to the side unless forced to due to injury. It is like for like changes only. Hence if Weideman is out, we either bring in one of the Browns, or revert back to a smaller mobile forwardline like we had in the first 6 rounds. 

AbsolutelyJaded .  The above.

We HAVE a Premiership defence  and defensive strategy (such as langdon running back to help out) now. 

Alter at our peril.

53 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Correct.

It was actually 1 minute to go. 3 short passes would have ended the game.

And excellent quick decision-making by Isac Smith to avoid bombing it and picking out Rohan wh was always going to outmark any doggie in a 1 on 1.

Stupid last minute play by Dogs. Bevo would be furious .  But the game emphasisesd the importance of making Stewart accountable. Do that and their defence is vulnerable

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Didn't Ross Lyon try that with Free a few years ago (and also at Geelong)  - and it didn't work out at all well for them.  

As I recall it was the stimulus / knee jerk reaction to introduce the prefinals bye.  Which in turn has slightly reduced the advantage of finishing top 4 vs 5-8.

yes, Lyon rested quite a few in the last game when finals sown up, to avoid them flying to tasmania.  Good idea by Lyon that caught the AFL napping. Who knows may have helped them make the GF that year

2 hours ago, Brownie said:

Are you suggesting we tank? Hahaha

Its now called 'Managed" , and I'm all for it.  Not sure who would miss esp now the end of season bye is in place.

If the AFL do the sensibel thing, which is usually long odds, then the bye wil be after prelim weekend.

Thus I would look at Max and Trac having a rest. Being managed that is.

7 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Next weeks cats away to the lions and bulldogs away to the eagles. They could both lose. Just super critical we beat the Dons. 

Well said. A huge week coming up in the finals context.

Sadly last night cost us a chance to get 2 games separation from 3rd spot.  Still, the ball's in our court and I reckon the lions and eagles will get the job done next week.

5 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Bulldogs have to prove they can take on powerful clubs in hostile environments. Big game for them tonight. 

I Know its counterintuitive but huge Demonland support needed tonight for the Dogs. If they beat the cats then our earlier win against Dogs becomes a sort or 8 point game for the cats loss in chasing us, and sets up the end of year clash also as a true 8 point game for us.  I know it helps the dogs get closer to the Dees , but gives good separation for both of us from 3rd spot, then keeping at least second is in our own hands if we can beat the Power in a few weeks.

On 6/16/2021 at 11:01 AM, Pennant St Dee said:

Go back to the mobile fwd line, keep the pressure up and create turnovers and scores like earlier in the season.

Out: Weid, Sparrow

In: Viney, Melksham 

B:        Lever          Petty       Hibberd

HB:    Hunt.            May         Salem

C.       Langdon     Oliver       Brayshaw

HF.     Pickett.      Tmac.       Nibbler

F.       Spargo.      Jackson    Fritsch

R. Gawn, Trac, Oliver

I/C Jordon, Harmes, Rivers, Melksham

Sub: Sparrow/Chandler

Top post.

Is the Match Cttee looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist?

i.e We have 3 tall forwards , but one is the combination of 2 players resting in the forward half of Gawn and the now excellent Jackson.

The solution to getting BBB and having weid is just that they are backup. Nothing more , esp in Weid's case.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

Are you surprised?

That's unfair this season.

The coaching team (presumably led by Goodwin) brilliantly unpicked the Bulldogs and was the most emphatic win of the year.

Brisbane to a lessser extent, and the Richmond win was a triumph of overall strategy.

The Pies plan wasn't dreamt up by Buckley, teams have been trying that approach for several years against the eagles, esp. McGovern, and some succeed or not. I have faith the coaches are well aware of the weaknesses.

And defence is an holistic isse. All players have a role and apart from 2 games, have executed well by incredible pressure on the ball carrier.

What is amazing is that the team is 11 -2 without solving the tall forward issue.

6 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Squiggle and Matter of Stats have a probabilistic methodology with different models (MoS) which might paint a picture.

You are right, it's still W-L, but it's interesting to ponder the probabilities for some confidence.

I think

Ess - L

GWS - W

Port - L

Suns - W

Hawks - W

Dogs - L

WC - L

Crows - W

Cats - L

4-5

Happy to be wrong though, very happy. It's quite possible for us to win Ess, Port, Dogs and go 7-2 though. That would be shocking.

I think this is worst case and has plenty of upside Superunkown.

It would give us 15 wins which I would have grabbed with both hands in March.

The issue now is that we have a right to be dissappointed if we drop games like the Bombers and Port who we are clearly better than.  I think only the cats game is unwinnable.  But if you'e right I'll take it.  At least 15 wins would mean maybe 5th spot and a home Final 1.  Beat Port or Bombers and wer'e 16 wins and 4th spot, probaly 2 home finals at least

35 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Just get him back in. I've seen enough of Weid dropping marks & missing what few opportunities he gets in front of goal.

As somone else here said yesterday - Wer'e currently playing with 17 men and a forward line reliant on too few to regularly impact scoreboard - Thanks TMac BTW for the year so far. Its amazing we lost by less than 3 goals yesterdy after the defence was unpikced on the smaller ground.

Brown will force the lowering of eyes, has great hands and kicks straight.  Mitch Brown will do also just for his great endeavour.

1 hour ago, Left Foot Snap said:

Give him a break for a few games then play him in defence for a while.

Why upset the league's best defence (until yesterday).

Its looking for a solution to a problem.

The solution is Sam doesn't make the cut.

13 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Brown can come in off training form, the fact there is no VFL is not an excuse for not picking players to come in. That’s really ridiculous if you take that to the logical conclusion that no one can get a call up without first playing VFL.

I wouldn’t hesitate. 

And the way some Dees fans waive away Brown’s recent history in the Coleman race and yet call back to one game of Weideman three years ago is cognitive dissonance of the highest calibre - you have to try hard to be so obtuse…

Love the language and love the idea and argument RPFC.