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1 hour ago, spalding said:

Think it might be another former captain handing over the cup should we salute the judge. 

Nailed it.

55 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

I was thinking about this, I know he probably wouldn't be up for it, but any member of the previous successful era, starting with RDB31 should be given a ticket and some grace to be there. I would dearly love to see Ron hand over the Cup to Max. 

RDB will unfurl the flag!

On 8/30/2021 at 7:06 PM, Grand New Flag said:

She inherited an extraordinary position. Outside of her connections with the Dan Andrew's Government at a time we are pleading for a club centre, she offers nothing. No loss.

Really?

She's been a club Director for 8 years so has a share of the ownership of the current status as much as anyone else.

Failure is an orphan, success has many parents. She qualifies in the latter.

Staying home to allow another, and most probably Pert, is a class decision on her part as Chair. Impressive.

(Juxtaposed to  Ed McGuire's attitude. I can hear his moaning already on tonights Footy Classified.)

Pert as leader of the Mgt team, and reporting to the board must be in Perth. (as should be water-boy/ PR/media manager extrordinaire Ben Gibson. Great seeing him get around the team after a goal. They clearly appreciate his off field work too.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Feel bitterly sorry for Ed, not being able to attend the GF (even though he has nothing to do with this year's GF)

Can someone tell me how Damien Barrett, Tom Browne and Hutchy got permission to attend? Do we not have journalists and TV presenters in Perth?

They pay the bills.   SEn and sportsbet etc. Of course Hutchy was going to be there.

What value does he add to the event?
- none. 

On 8/28/2021 at 4:15 PM, longsuffering said:

I am absolutely with you. Everyone plays at a neutral venue would have been fairer for everyone but fair and AFL HQ dont ever align.

Will Brisbane get a home game if they win. I bet they do. I will laugh (no I won't) if McGowan calls a lockdown and the GF is played with no crowd. What a joke. 

I look at it differently.  Power will win no matter who they play as will the Dees.

We get a hit out on the gf venue in the prelim. It may be a 1 or 2 % advantage for us in ground familiarity.

Could be good. 

11 minutes ago, binman said:

For those criticising the AFL, the tribunal is independent. 

The AFL asked for six weeks 

I suspect the Tribunal took into account missing a potential PF and GF. Not unreasonable, . In normal circumstances may have been 5 to 6 weeks mid season.

Plus the cost to GWS and likely loss of potential captaincy.

51 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I assume they’ll give him a big suspension on the assumption of an appeal where the number of weeks will be slightly downgraded. 
Either way, what great preparation for finals for GWS. Greene is such a wonderful leader. 

You have hinted at the next issue Jaded , surrounding GWS as a club.

If they appeal, and don't cop it, it says something about their culture.

Green is rightly gone, GWS next move will be the issue now. I suspect / hope Gil will pick up the blower to Tony Shepherd and say don't even think about it.

And can posters and others(Luke Hodge) stop quoting the Lachie Neale decision. Two wrongs don't make a right. 

12 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

You can still be sorry for something you didnt mean to do.  

I wish he had just put his hands up immediately after the contact and apologised to him right then and there. That would have been the right thing to do.  He might have still got a couple of weeks, but  this whole click bait circus might have been avoided. 

Like Tom Hawkins sorry he broke Steven May's eye socket.

Spare me. I don't buy those apologies - especially for serial offenders.  Having said this, ScoMo could take a leaf out of Toby's book

6 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The stat is the stat. You can't argue with a fact.

Only 1 premier since 1990 has gone an entire final series by kicking more behinds than goals in each final of that campaign.

I'm not saying we can't win the flag if we're inaccurate in all 3 finals. But it would be rare.

Personally I reckon this thread is on here because we so comprehensively beat the Lions, had no apparent weakness (apart from a small forward alert that can be fixed), no injuries, possibly no changes, weeks rest in the sun, % AA's, AA skipper, Rising Start, under 22 reps, that this website needs something to discucss to pass the time productively.

What a change from the old days.  I like it.

Amusing and entertaining. Keep it up Demonlanders and we'll get serious next Monday!

21 minutes ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

Early season predictions from the experts …

Crystal Ball: Our predictions for the 2021 AFL season are in

Great Read FF.

Iv'e never seen so much amusing fiction , since I read some James Bond Novels.

However at least Barrett came up with the gem "...Clarkson and Kennett will come to blows..." 

But anyone could have tipped this come to think of it.

On 8/21/2021 at 3:37 PM, Ham said:

Right? Who would've thought...

I agree, but someone pass this only to Bailey Fritsch.

although to give him credit he's improved somewhat from early in the season.

On 8/21/2021 at 1:08 AM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is the fact that since 1990 every premier aside from West Coast in 1994 has gone at least 1 game in a finals series where they’ve avoided kicking  more behinds than goals.

All of these premiers have played at least 3 games.

Now how amazing a stat is that- at least one game in a finals series since 1990, a premier has  gone at least 50/50 conversion in at least one of their 3 finals,  aside from West Coast in 1994.

Moral of the story is that if we kick more behinds than goals in ALL (YES ALL) of our upcoming finals games, we’re only a 5% chance of winning the flag.

Foot note- West Coast kicked 47.70 in the 1994 series which is completely unsustainable and unrealistic in modern day footy.

I like it.  And the overall season stat I like is that each week, 8 of the 9 winning teams had better accuracy, (kicking more goals than points) than the loser. Kick more gaols than points and 8 out of 9 chances sees a win.

The finals this weekend panned out that way, unless it was a demolition job like Port and Dees delivered . Swans kick 2.7 in the last 1/4. Losing the unlosable.

MY major worry that will kill our chances, unless we flat out swamp the oppositon with scoring chances like we did in the 2nd 1/4. 

On 8/29/2021 at 3:03 PM, Flower Magic said:

TMac must continue to play, given that our likely GF opponent is Port Adelaide. He will take Alir Alir, leaving BB and Fritta with lesser defenders. I'll be happy if he then spends the entire GF taking Alir Alir where the ball isn't. We will laud his game if he gets only a few kicks, but Alir Alir is taken out of the game.

But we know that he will retain his place because Goody has total faith in the 22 players who destroyed the Lions, so this discussion is pretty pointless.

And he has the aerobic capacity as good or better than Alir who must follow him. If Smith goes out he maintains some running and height for the team. 

Too good a footy IQ  IMO, but will dpend on his back over next 2 weeks

5 hours ago, Jaded said:

If Hunt is fit it's not an involuntary change. It is bringing back a regular best 22 player for a fringe player in Smith who has just had 5 goals kicked on him.

Our backline has been settled all year. Hunt got injured late, and I think we have missed his drive off half back. Smith is not only not defending that great, he is not giving us any drive off half. Bowey is giving us some, but he can't be expected to take the game on like Hunt has been doing all year. 

I am backing Hunt to come back if fit. Whether he replaces Smith or Bowey I don't know. Hibbo could very well come in if we play GWS to help with Greene. Time will tell.

Excellent call on Hunt and the nature of the change. Hunt is good above his head as well as fast.  I fear not having him on the big slightly longer but narrower Oval if he's fit enough.

Kardinia is slightly longer by 5 (Meteres) but much narrower (by 15 metres). This will suit Hunts speed against the Cats say.

He was key to the initial defensive strategy so should fit right back in.

I fear for Smiths place. Again on Saturday he flew against  May and Petty a few times, but thats not his role. Those

guys have that covered. But he's more versatile than Hibberd. Bowey would be stiff, but like Tomlinson, Jordan and others he will have an excellent career with the Dees from 2022.

14 minutes ago, 58er said:

Good suggestion but RDB must be in a ceremony at some time of recognition officially also. 

My thoughts on a flag unfurling is a joint effort by which would compensate are:

RDB, Neil Daniher and Jim Stynes Widow, Sam. 

First game at the G next year.

I'm resigned to missing the GF now, but looking forward to the above in 2022.

I know this is mozzing us but I can dream can't I?

16 minutes ago, 58er said:

 

If Bailey kicks 3/4 in the next 2 games he is very unlucky not to be AA.  

If this happens he will be a premiership player

32 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

last 3 games, 12 tackles.

and when tackling, not a hair out of place with the best head of hair in the AFL.

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Thanks for the extra info.  He is gone!

Without Toby Cats win.  We have and can beat the Cats in the Prelim especially after a rest for us and no rest for them.

When you see it in real time and live, as I did watching the game, my immediate subconscious reaction - tha's a week out.  All other angles and footage and commentary by the media is just spin. Its amazing how many in themedia/past player cohort just sit on the fence on this and don't do their media role objectively - as Nick reiwoldt does (a real media asset on Kayo IMO)

On the Cats, I agree Lucifer with you that the cats can be rolled by us for sure in two weeks. Mainly because I just can't see our defence weakening in any area.

My main conern going into finals was the GWS midfield. May now not eventuate 

1 hour ago, bingers said:

Yo ... someone posted that the side v Brisbane included 9 players playing their first finals.

Who were the virgins? I can only think of:

• Kozzy
• Jacko
• Rivo
• Spargs (perhaps?)
• May
• Sparrow
• Jordon (although he was med sub)
• Bowey
• Petty

I guess the only one I'm not sure about is Spargs. Has he played a final before? If not, who is the nineth virgin?

Spago played 2018 finals series - and not too bad either. Ed Langdon was first finalist.

16 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

Remember the day Brayshaw gave Razor a high five against the Dogs? That’s how you should touch an umpire 

And Razor put his hand out low and Gus responded from memory.

Ray 'gets ' the game. 

8 minutes ago, Kent said:

He was no where near him at the forward stoppages 

Needs to learn the craft

Kane cornes correctly mentioned this morning that Ports small fowards will trouble us at ground level. I agree and think joel smith isn't yet a lock in defence for this reason. 

I would feel more secure if hunt can come back

19 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Anyone have any thoughts on the vibe around choosing to have Gawn, Petracca, Oliver and May on the bench for the last 5 or so minutes?

Resting/Protection?

Proving that the team can perform without them?

Revelling in watching the lads?

An AA bench. 

But smart of goody. May didn't like it but its a back handed compliment to one of our flag keys.

25 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Andrews is their best defender by a mile.

Adams isn’t even an automatic best 22 and hasn’t played more than 11 games a year in the last 6 years.

WAS their best defender. He's no longer AA for a reason.

2 hours ago, 58er said:

No it's not Tmac provides backup and needs minding Can also play down back if needed. 
Our ground ball issues in defence far outway any Tmac fiorm worries.

Mark my words Tmac will be needed to combat Alair in GF.  Other talls cdm then star as they did tonight. 
if it ain't broken don't fix it! 
 

TMac took their best defender out of the frame in Marcus Adams.  Did his job and can improve.

6 hours ago, Chook said:

Anyone who thinks Brayshaw is a poor player has no idea. This is by far his best season ever. 3rd in the Brownlow can get stuffed. Give me 15 years of this from any player and I'll be rapt.

Great call.  An earlier poster nailed it in 3 too  -  "high IQ player".

You can't have too many of them I reckon.