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5 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Sam Edmunds starting to get on board with Cerra to the Dees.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/09/18/sam-edmunds-trade-update-on-cerra-lobb-clark-and-more/

"I struggle to see how Melbourne would go to the trouble of being the only other club to compete with Carlton for his services if they didn’t have a plan in place or a possibility of getting the deal done. When you look at it, it has to involve a player.”

“Clearly Adam Cerra believes it’s possible because he hasn’t said ‘I’m definitely going to Carlton'".

In Taylor we trust - but please not at the expense of the culture and cameraderie of the group. (a la Woey)

7 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

It depends on how you count.

If you count from the day after the qualifying final, we'll have played 1 game in 27 days.

If you count from the day of the round 23 match against Geelong, we'll have played 3 matches in 35 days.

Two more games in 8 more days.

It suits whatever narrative you want to put forward.

At last someone has spelt it out fro what it is. A media discussion angle to fill space.

Doggies are 1 game in 21 days by the same standrads touted.

We have the leading fittness and conditoning team. That will address any issues we have re fitness or hardness.

7 hours ago, jacey said:

Interesting that Ross Lyon last week said Scott would review the Rd 23 tape where they were 44pts in front, fix a few things and cats will get it done. 

This week, Ross Lyon, Beveridge made the necessary changes in Rd 19 to win, they'll review that again and with the week off, the dogs will get it done. 

That was an amzing statement on Footy CLassifed by Ross last week. From someone of his calibre. His stocks aren't really rising at the minute

Yet the bleeding obvious was what actually happened.   Lloydy stuck with the Dees nevertheless in that exchange.  

There has been a reasonable number of complaints on here about media analysis, game callers etc. From myself and many others.

The AFL media Association has just announced Daisy Pearce as the winner of the 2021 Best Opinion/Analyst Award.

Justly deserved and how good is that.

On 9/14/2021 at 8:32 PM, Chook said:

"I don't feel anything."
—Garry Lyon, AFL 360, Tuesday 14 September 2021

He's a very strange person, Garry. Not much emotion in the guy, I'll say that much.

So you know him personally do you?

31 minutes ago, FlashInThePan said:

I think we are fine, our age profile is great across the board. Petty can absolutely be the next May in a couple of years and Lever is only around 25. 

I’m wrapped about this, TMac is a key pillar in our forward line and, as a few have said, this is almost certainly a win/win giving him some certainty and us some salary cap smoothing.

Each game they play I see Tmac and BBrwon as a natural and complimentary duo. Bot with different characteristics.

5 hours ago, layzie said:

Tell me about it! It is all I'm hearing. Anyone gonna make the slightest suggestion that this might kill the Dogs momentum? 

Ross Lyon even said that although we did well after the QF bye that it now grows exponentially the need for intense match practice. 

I'd like to hear how the Dogs would have had nothing to lose but with another week to think about it the pressure is now on!

Does Ross have the mathematics behind his exponential prediction?

Does he know how this differs from say linear increase......

Sheeesh.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Great story. He has really been a great addition to the team, ahead of time.  He got his chance and hasn’t looked back. 

Great work again by Jason taylor. Like James Jordan, from Day 1 he looks like he belongs. 

Huge successful era coming up - if not already arrived and we just don't know it yet.

2 hours ago, Garbo said:

Wouldn’t you rather beat them and there be no excuses for either side, our best 22 vs there best 22 I still think we win more often than not. I know that would be much more satisfying. I don’t want to win only because they couldn’t put there best team out there and or have people put a question mark over it. As to the bye it won’t hurt our prep so not worried about that, if we do loose it’s only because the dogs were better.

Port beat the swans and GWS in 2021 - no other finalists (i don't count the marvel win against the dogs - it was as good as a draw.)

The Port season had an easy draw and they were the most underwhelming 2nd place team in history.

They have been grossly over-rated as was the Dogs win last week against them.

The Dogs as a consequence are the most over-hyped GF participant. They are not the Bombers in 2000, Hawks in 2013-2015 , not Lions in 2002 - 2003. The Dees are.

That's fine of course, its all a matter of opinion. I still rate the cats and they were crushed by " the hottest team ' ever, according to Isaac Smith.

The media can write the sob story of the Doggies travails afterwards.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Don’t mind the honesty, at least he didn’t use the poo excuse like his coach did. 

He gave them excellent service which is  ore than you can say for many of them.

We got Ed Langdon - winners!

15 hours ago, Pollyanna said:

You're kidding me right? 

Chris Grant 341 games, 554 goals and ripped off by Ian Collins of the 1997 Brownlow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Grant_(footballer)

Nice call here.

As a committed Dee I once had the pleaseure of sitting in the corporate room at a Dees v Dogs game in 1998 as a guest of a Dogs Cttee member. Right in front of me was Charlie Sutton. The game was at Princes park for some reason, dogs won by 3 goals, Grant had 21 disposla and kicked 3.

Charlie was held in reverance at the event by all, but Chris Grant turned on a master class in the game and I found his nickname with the Doggies faithful was ' Rolle Royce".

He sure was that day and I appreciated him ever since.

Both worthy links to each team I reckon.

4 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Age Footy Podcast has me a wreck - the pre GF bye favours Bulldogs, Bulldogs have the momentum , Weightman and Keath back, Bulldogs a better win etc etc

🤮🤮☠️☠️🕵🏻🕵🏻

What we know for sure is that No-one knows. Its all supposition. Bulldogs momentum cannot be sustained over 2 weeks and to think so is ridiculous.

Arguments each way:

In favour of Dogs - Dogs get to rest up , sore players recover, Dees become bored waiting again, ................

Against dogs  -  Dogs lose monentum, 2 weeks is mis-managed , Dees get good recovery, May is fit (AA Full back), Naughton loses sleep because May is fit, Dogs become bored too and fill in time watching the Dees prelim win and realise they can't win the GF,.....

etc.  , etc.

Apart from th above, the key issue is the quality of Burgess and medicos in tuning up the team cherry ripe, May is healthy, and they can better manage the emotional drain of a 2 week wait. 

Teh debate he is all about column inches and who can blame the media for that. They have 2 weeks to fill in too.

24 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Ken Melville supported by Gaddy Lyon

Excellent call.

2 hours ago, Young Blood said:

Keep it coming I say. A lot of media is hyping up the dogs given they have the bye and belief.

Thing is I think the bye suits us more as we've just been through it. We know exactly what to do to prepare and it worked incredibly well. Keep the same routine and structure. Dogs might be the ones to come out flat I reckon.

Goodwins post game talk to the players was spot on.

Jobs not done. All we've done is get the the GF.

Enjoy this moment , but The job is to win the GF.

Smart - no of the pseudo emotional messaging that the players don't need . I like Bevo and drawing on emotion is a good thing at times.

I like Goodwin's more of a "this is us",  its worked all year, lets get it done our way" 

34 minutes ago, 58er said:

Really Great and all that Daisy is comparing her contribution to Melb at this stage it would be an insult to Neiter  Stynes Todd V Schwartz and many others Hassan Mann included.

Glen Bartlett is already in WA also.

Let Daisy shine in the AFLW at this stage please and maybe play in a flag this year. 
I also include her role in propelling W footy greatly but plenty in AFL have deserved this honour prior to our much loved No 1 AFlW star. 

I knew someone would reply accordingly.  It was about the principle rather than an afl/aflw issue. 

39 minutes ago, Wrecker46 said:

Daisy Pearce is over there commentating I reckon she is an outside chance.

Everytime I read this thread someone has come up with nothing short of another brilliant idea.

Daisy and Garry?

11 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Have Max present it to himself. The only bloke in the comp that could pull that off. 

Huge tick for this idea Queanbetan.

It won't happen of course but it would be an event and television for the ages.

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Recency bias, even when the Dogs game was only 24 hrs after ours.

I am never confident on the Dees winning. I am now

Brilliant terminology that sums up generally how media types and other short term thinkers see the game. 

Thanks for that mickey

34 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Interesting listening to David King on SEN today, for those who are all in on the dogs.

They beat us in rnd 19 by 20 points. The expected score (I know, strange stat) for that game had it as a draw. They also scored the lost points ever from forward 50 stoppages. That won't happen again.

 So, if we score at at least the AFL average  and don't let them score a record for forward 50 stoppages, we win.

The dogs won't beat us. Only we can lose this.

I heard that session too.

King was very very bullish because Dees are a whole of unit system and can cover all eventualities. He couldn't believe Gerard was 50/50 and on what basis.

IMO the whole Port game has been overblown and the media have gone nuts in an emotional way. King has shown that up today to have no logic behind it and quoted a few facts and figures to support that contention as you mentioned.

The form lines clearly suggest Port were ripe for the taking.

Dogs barely beat Lions. Dees trounced Lions.

Port beat the Cats but didn't put them away, kicking only 12 goals 14 behinds. We smashed the cats from the first minute

This is why Dees are favourites atm. as it should be.

7 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Paul Roos would have been my pick.

I can see them convincing Gaz.

Yeah he did say that in those interviews but I also thought he looked to be embracing it. Knowing he's one of the few club greats available and how much he cares about the team I can see them convincing him. He's still got such a strong relationship with the club and a lot of the players. Would love to see him hand it over to Max.

I love the idea of Ken Melville (age 90) being assisted by Garry.??? - both in Perth.

There will be plenty of spots for those suggested for the flag unfurling.   

RDB probably but as a celebration the Tiges did it beautifully in 2018 (for the 2017 flag) which involved a number of important people to participate from Cheer squad, to supporters, older champions etc., Sam Stynes, Neale.........

The list could be endless really

1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

Will Schofield

He's unavailable.  Too busy studying for his exams for his  psychology degree at the University of Western Samoa.

12 hours ago, A F said:

I'd be tempted to play Smith as medi sub. Then if a forward or a back goes down he could step in. Not a great option though, I'll admit. I don't trust either of them.

We may actually not need the extra tall if May goes down. Petty to Naughton, Lever on Schache or even Hibbo on Schache or Gawn in slow plays.

Not ideal of course, but you roll with the punches.

Sadly for Jordan, I think this is an option to consider. Smith can play tall, good engine and pinch hit in a number of positions, but mainly an important insurance for the premiership defence set up that will win us the game.

30 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I made the mistake of watching offsiders on the ABC on Sunday morning.

Kellie Underwood started by calling Geelong the oldest club in the competition (maybe she was talking about the players?)

And then trotted out the grand final match up between the working class Bulldogs and the Melbourne inner city elite.

this fifty year old stereotyping drives me nuts.

I saw that too.

Talk about lazy journalism from Kelly with no feeling for the moment.

I'm (ex) working class and I hate the Doggies when we play them.

As I mentioned elsewhere last week, my demons scarf was stolen last Wednesday from my Geelong front garden, in broad daylight.

Infuriated I wrote a stongly worded letter to the Editor of The Geelong Advertiser. Nothing in the paper the next day, but to their credit , they published on Friday 10th September, before the game.

I have re-created the letter as published, but the Headline was the sub-eds words not mine:

                                        "GIVE SCARF BACK OR THE CATS ARE GONNA GET IT

                 A local just stole my Melbourne Football Club scarf placed on a tree in my front garden.

                  As a result, the 'karma' bus is coming for the probable Cats supporter and their team.

                                              Would the theif please return it as it belongs to my son"

The last sentence isn't true but I thought i'd try and tug the heart strings. Still no scarfback but I have since put 3 others up.

I like to think I may have helped in some way to get the PF result.

21 hours ago, frankie_d said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-fringe-players-set-to-explore-options-20210911-p58qst.html?btis

 

Hard to not see this in an MFCSS light. The win was just fascistic, but if the cats were crook …

I disagree. The opposite is true.

Will the cats use this as an excuse to continue the same trodden path and not make necessary changes to their list and style - if they can. Its possible they will and "  gee , we could beaten those Dees if only we hadn't had a crook oyster from the buffet...."