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My former Chair on a Board I was involved with (mulit-billion dollar outfit)would demand Sheedy's resignation. If not, then he and most other Board members, myself included, would resign over this breach of Board governance. Big, big test for David Barham. The phrase 'Sheedy out of his depth here' comes to mind

Nice one. get on the phone to Pert and pass that message on. Its a buyers market when it comes to grundy and the Pies are Sellers. No love in commercial negotiations. The best bit so far is that the club (Goody and Gawn and some others?) met with Grundy and he walked out with Dees as the destination - Dees a destination club then in my book. . He also understands he is in an absolute strong position bargaining-wise with the Pies and I suspect he will use that strength also. This will be the story in the media next week.

Thats about it. He can be a front and centre player , as in the Round 23 2021 game at the cattery, but thats not his value. That's Kozzie and ANB's job mainly. He needs to do more for sure but something good usually happens WHEN he gets the ball. But I love jayden Hunt and he brings great competitivenss to the club, and is good overhead which many don't acknowledge. But sadly Bowey and others are the future. I hope he makes mega bucks at the eagles and has a good backend to his career. I'll never boo him either.

Really? Give me Spargo's fast brain and elite inside 50 delivery anyday.

I look at the top 10 and think what a group of talent like Iv'e never seen before. Sure Goody and Dees have some issues but with hard work and smart recruiting I'm looking forward to 2023 to watch this list grow again. (Someone here a while ago predicted LJ would be 15th - close at 14th) ahead of only compromised layers. Dissappointing end to an heroic 3 years with us. But best wishes to him) And Clarry as a once in a generation talent .

Summed up well. Can anyone say if Jayden was offered a deal by the Dees, or is it a case of him leaving because the deal if offered was too low, or no future commitments to getting into best 22??

Insightful query Redsox. On 2021 performance, the culture improvements came first over the 2020 off season, caring/sharing concepts embraced etc. Then we win a flag. Just an example, there's many facets to good culture. But having the talent is mandatory also. As we have. Then in 2022 we win the first 10 - no drinking bathwater here IMO. (as Jake Niall incorrectly assessed at the start of the season) I held the cup on one of its many regional whistle stops and joined 35,000 others at the G last December. Geelongs cup is now sitting at Kardinia Park. Come on down if you want to see it I guess for their fans elsewhere. Very comfortable where we are. keeping/saving Adem Yze from a fate worse than death by joining the Bombers is just a bonus now for continuity into 2023. Sure we have issues but none are insurmountable with the foundations firmly in place.

None taken and just passing on what a serious Pies fan thinks.

checked it out personally. Heavy duty chain and padlock Presumably they would simply open all turnstiles to allow exit in an emergency

My Pies tragic mate tells me at the GF that he wants De Goey out and will be shattered if Grundy leaves. He says Dees will be the clear winners if we get Grundy. Superior tap ruckman to max and far better below his knees. he says he's really a giant on-baller.. And would be a huge point of differenec for the Dees, and Max gets needed help. And allows Max around the ground which he excells at, Just saying from a Pies fan who knows his team well.

No. At Gate 2 The only turnstile to leave without scanning, which is open around 3/4 time each game, was padlocked closed on Saturday. With security only allowing staff in and out withour scanning.

Not necessarily. The only way to leave the members is to scan your card to get out . Will the MCC be smart enough to do a search of those who took leave passes and check timing of the scan. ? Maybe? The system will have that info. I spent the 3rd 1/4 not watching the game and came back to my seat and the area was only half full. Plenty had left by that time, me too just after start of last. Very limited atmosphere for a GF IMO.

Much admired young Jack Henry yesterday before the bounce Buddy was hugely aggressive towards him - push and shove etc. Henry simply absorbed the aggression and re-took his post next to Buddy each time he was pushed away.. Never engaged emotionally. Take Note Steven May. Then went on to comprehensively beat him in any contests. Buddy's been shown up by May and no longer has the tricks, based on the GF and our final. Farewell year for him in 2023, but IMO another example of a true champ going too long. I wonder whether these types find it difficult to imagine life without elite sport and thus push that final boundary.?

No they won't. Bloods culture? You're kidding. First time I've left a gf at 3 quarter time. Franklin passed it May unlocked the secret. Dees will be better next year and at least provide a contest.

Youv'e convinced me. Goody said on 360 this week, they've thought about it a lot and think they can make it work. Max is superb around the ground. You could be onto something, and he's a super athlete tank-wise. maybe we are inventing something unseen for 2023 rather than slavishly following what the next Premiers will be doing on Saturday. Interesting for sure.

And elite foot skills which is one reason taylor liked him as a selection. (Taylor says he has elite decision making skills also - as you say)

Exactly. It wasn't a review, its was a truth-telling exercise by the club to seek the experiences of other indigenous players following Cyril's expose of his club departure and what was behind that.They provided those insights back to the club. Now a reveiw on the issues is needed and has been initiated. Everyone gets their say but the players and families involved in Egan's process had every right to tell their story to Egan's team. As usual in Australia, its up to the ABC to expose appalling behaviour coz no-one else does. If we don't believe this was 'sat on' hoping it goes away or becomes public after the GF then we're naive in the extreme.

Based on the game style now of Swans, Cats and Pies, I think the 2021 approach by Goodwin has now passed its use by date. I just hope he is evolving strategy - wise and not looking to recruit to replicate last year. It won't fly any longer and we'll end up 8th to 5th again IMO.

Doesn't spread hi stax once your in the big numbers. Once over max threshold of $180K its 45 cents in the dollar above 180K. So 500 or 700, if the toal 3 year amount is $2.0M or so , same tax will be paid over the 3 years.

Hopefully Pert and Lamb realise we hold all the cards in this deal and strike an outcome accordingly. No favours to be done under any circumstances.

AGreed for sure. The team AND the coaching panel need constant refresh to avoid slump with this list of talent and Yze leaving is great for him (and maybe his return to the Dees later) but opens up coachhing panel shake up opportunities. He and Williams would leave with best wishes. Caracella can sign on any time he likes.

Sir Swampthings grasp of maths for analytical reasons is less than useful (IMO) and he should have quoted the MEDIAN. I have done the calcs, and it points an even worse picture for the cats age group. And thus puts to bed the lie of being aged and thus poorer for it. The MEDIAN age of last nights Cats team is 29 years 150 Days. (he quotes the av as 28 years 173 days - that may be so but is meaningless anyway) So this tells us the Cats have HALF their team 30 years or older. Huge effort by an' ageing ' list. By comparison, the Dees median for the team that played last week is 26 years 255 Days. So only half our team is over 26 plus years. We have 3 years on them thus our list can retain its shape for longer now. Hence why the cats have 10 new palyers in from last years PF and are actively recruiting to fill retirement gaps coming up. And in addition, the team I really rate as our main threat in 2023 to the next flag, the Swans, have a Median age of 25 years 0 days. or 1 and 3/4 years younger than us. And if you take out Buddy that median drops by a whole 1 year. Thus Half their best 22 are 24 and under. Scary.

Thanks for this, but like you I don't know what an Average Median is either. (and I have a maths degree). I think I might look into this for the Dees and see what our answer is.

Getting more than zero disposlas in an easy junk time last quarter would be a start for Zorko to improve. BT and the team were calling out at 3/4 time for someone in Lions side to stand up leadership-wise and say " ..come with me..." Like Selwood, Viney, Pendles, Bont, Cotchin etc...." Guess that ain't you Dayne.

Not so sure. I think the median will show that the cats aren't much different in that profile than many other teams. Median is diffeerent to mean/average. It takes account of outliers and makes more sense across a data set of 22 players.