TheoX

Cheap shots and spin again. You're all class Machsy.

It's got a lot more credibility that your theory that Lever would make a good midfielder, despite him never having played there, which is based on, well, nothing really.

Maybe Jetta can play as a ruckman too.

No i'm not personally, but I'm confident our recruting staff will work it out. They're no Barry Prendergasts.

So you want us to draft a safer bet in a midfielder, rather than just the best talent at #3, yet your preference is Lever, a key defender who has never played in the midfield and is coming off a knee reconstruction? Make up your mind.

So would you say he's fast off the mark then? That's the kind of 'fast' you probably want a leading forward to have isn't it?

Yeah you keep saying so but not why you think he'll be the best. What's so funny about everyone saying McCartin's fast? He is.These are people who have actually watched him play.

McCartin's quick, and all the experts say so. Why do you like Lever who we know is slow as [censored]?

Keeping Lever under wraps? We don't need to keep him under wraps, we have pick 2 and 3, and StKilda aren't taking him.

Surely if they wanted him, Port would've given him up as steak knives in the Ryder deal

I think it's because he was offered a contract and he rejected it.

Exactly, any team could've had Fyfe, Gray or Tippett. And Nicnat is a spud, wouldn't want him in our side.

If he was offered a contract by Port he's probably not as a big a dud as all the delistees on offer.

Lever looks to have very average pace from the highlights, good agility though.

Well they screwed us by forcing us to trade 23 for Frost.

??? Who are we paying a million a year for 7 odd years?

Wouldn't think paying 10% of the salary cap to one player is a great strategy. Hopefully we get Petracca and Brayshaw, otherwise Brayshaw and McCartin.

Would have liked it to have been Blease but he's a goner.

Yeah they'll be really [censored] off that we're 'raiding' their delistees.

Lever has had a knee reconstruction, Selwood had some cartilage removed, you can't compare the two.

Like I said he's in full training now. If he didn't train for 8 months, he's been training for ~4 now. Not training doesn't mean he's sitting on the couch non weight bearing stmj.

As an aspiring professional spoertperson, he would have been doing some form of weight bearing exercises after a few weeks post op, I'd hate to think any rehab program for an ACL reco would have him NWB for "months". He would also have been doing sprinting training for months now, unless he's had setbacks. He's 12 months post-op. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Yeah, remember back to Trengove pre navicular injuries though, he had at least a bit of toe off the mark, unlike the last 2-3 years. Watts still shows his pace during games, I don't think anyone would or could call him slow, he just doesn't use it to its full effect. Haven't seen anything of Hartung so can't comment.

Of course it's not the full story, but you don't know for a fact that the injury's effected his speed and endurance, do you have any testing results from before the injury? Those tests are as objective as you can get, and he should have recovered most of the speed and endurance he possessed previously after nearly 12 months of rehab. Unless he's a freak like Mitchell, the lack of speed will probably be an issue at AFL level. Lack of pace is not a good attribute for a KPB at AFL level and I hope we're not going to drat him in hte hope he may become a midfielder, because he's hardly played there in his junior career from what I can tell.

He did his knee last December I think it was, He has been cleared to fully train and would be playing if it were during the season now. He's done his rehab. He's just slow.