DeeSpencer

Lions, Niners, Chiefs

Scott took over a literal dynasty tho and all he did was stop them over handballing and coach better than Bomber who had significant issues by that stage. Enough issues to sack a guy who had won 2 of the last 4 flags! That’s very different than Goodwin taking over a list with Gawn, Viney and draft picks. I blame Goodwin for not being more proactive with the list the last few years but I don’t blame him not getting more out of most of the players. We had a look at a lot of the list this year and they just aren’t very good. We just don’t turn the list over or take enough mature agers or alternative talent kind of picks. I agree with this. And trying to recreate 2021 when we played the same team all year in 2022 was a major mistake. 2023 I think we managed some decent injuries, still finished top 4 and actually had everything tracking well for finals until Petty and especially Melksham went down on the eve of finals. Suddenly the forward line was cactus. Throw in the Gus injury early in a game and what could’ve been a big time finals win goes down the drain. We shouldn’t have seasons that go down the drain like this year did but it’s list related not coaching. You can’t win with no midfield.

Have you met Paul Roos? He was working for North from Hawaii.

Watching the games - the way Goody interacted with players and Roos would only step in when needed and watching the trainings - of which Goodwin took all of them. Watching the game plan change massively - in fact, the final round of 2015 was Goody’s first game in charge. 8000 of us at Docklands vs GWS and the magnets completely changed. A zone defence. Up tempo ball movement. Forward pressure. None of that happened in 2015 until the very final round and then got going in 16. May and Lever weren’t just regular injuries. Almost the entire midfield having surgeries isn’t just injuries. Read this and see Misson was warning everyone before the season even started and then it only got worse as the year went on. https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-melbourne-board-preseason-reportedly-warned-about-injury-toll-and-possible-sluggish-start/news-story/ac5c04b3f5fc1f0bbab2e3fd40b471bf I’d have Scott over Goodwin too but Scott won his first flag with his own players after a decade in charge and they immediately missed finals. But what did they do in the mean time? Add Olli Henry and Tanner Bruhn with meh picks, that makes life easier than trying to draft and develop the likes of JVR and Jefferson. Add guys like Dempsey, Humphries and Mannagh. The difference between the Cats list management and ours is way more than the difference in coaching.

Big O is a big out, but I wonder if the Lions other outs have almost helped them. Lester is always the back up but seems to get the job done. He might be better than Doedee and Gardiner. Coleman is an incredible footballer but his absence has forced Zorko to go back, where he is brilliant but also seems to concentrate on the game more. When he was mid/forward he’d spend the down time at stoppages giving away free kicks with poor discipline. Linc is one of my favourite opposition players but Ah Chee and Lohmann have thrived in his absence and they have fresher younger legs than he does. The crucial thing with the Lions injuries aside from Oscar is they happened with enough time to regroup and get a consistent team together. Plus they clearly have a fantastic list.

Load of junk. For one, Goodwin coached all of 2016 which was Tracc and Clarry’s first season. There is no Tracc and Clarry before Goodwin. They are just draft picks. Like McLean and Sylvia or Morton and Trengove. By 2018 Jones was a role player, Lewis and Vince couldn’t play in the same side as they were both looking for cheapies across half back. We had no key defenders, our young midfield weren’t seasoned and we didn’t have the depth of wings and forward flankers. We dominated a couple of finals then got blown out by the eventual premiers in a game no one was winning. 2019 our injury list was comically bad and no one did a preseason, there was over a dozen off season surgeries. The trade off of young team going deep the year before. Lever was injured. May didn’t turn up. Just a complete throw away year. We should’ve done better in 2020, but we were bedding down the defensive system and played 3 young kids who starred in September the next year.

Pack the backline and defend like mad was excellent game style??? It was the best thing for us in 14 and 15 but otherwise did very little in terms of trying to play like a successful side.

I know, but when you leave Qld to go to the school that played in the first ever game of footy you don't need your academy any more. Frankly it's double dipping. And makes it hard to say he's a product of the development work Brisbane did.

I reckon plan A was to have Windsor sneak through and grab Curtin/Caddy first. Plan B was Windsor at 7, hope 2 others (Wilson, ?) went and then have one of the talls in Caddy/Curtin/O’Sullivan get through. Not that I’m unhappy with Kolt or that he wouldn’t have been part of the plan to go up and secure someone higher up. But he wasn’t the optimal result. It’s obviously better when you have situation like Rivers in 2019 fall to your pick and you get the win of the player without spending more draft capital.

It’s often first in best dressed with moving up in the draft but I’d rather actually wait until the draft and see just who is available at the picks before we trade up this year. It’s a deep draft so someone should fall to 30, meanwhile I reckon we got caught out in 20/21 and even last year trading up and not getting our most preferred targets.

Was he injured or unwell? 8 touches for a guy who averages 25 is highly unusual

Here’s a minor overhaul- you can’t be in the Brisbane Academy if you go to Melbourne Grammar and play at Sandy Dragons. Takes one second to fix that problem.

Does he though? He’s born in January and has spent the entire year as a full time footballer. He’ll obviously get stronger but I doubt power will ever be a big part of his game, he’s got a wiry frame. Reid might have more of a bulky frame to add power once he gets in to a full time environment.

We were 3 goals up because we had the wind for 2 of the 3 quarters. Freo scored 1 goal in the first and third. We scored 1 goal in the second. The game was going to tighten up in the last and make scoring in to the wind incredibly hard. 1 goal 4 in the 3rd quarter was where we lost it.

The Hore holding the ball came about because she tried to do it all herself. Same as her shot at goal in the 3rd quarter with 2 spare alone in the square. Good player, but needs to work with her team mates to go up another level. That’s harder when half of them are unknowns.

Please. They lost 4 best 21 players in trade week. Have another 6 out injured. And lost 2 more in game. Freo were always going to charge late with the wind. Game was lost in the 3rd not converting chances but the forward line today had 2 players who’d get a game in full strength side and 4 who aren’t up to it.

Haha that’s not a tackle

Trademark horrendous weak Bannan contest as the ball went inside 50 there. She’s so bad

Mackin injured. Zanker possible acl? Just fold the comp

No idea why Hore wasn’t back the whole quarter and a bad effort from Colvin to concede 2 goals in quick succession. We need a miracle now

Wrong thread

And then we get one back. Schofield melt incoming

The girl who looks no older than 13 is hopeless

How about the shape he was in when he turned up for preseason and was right down the back in the running? Or how bad he was in his positioning even with basic around the ground work rate in the ruck? Or his initial form when sent back to Casey? He was never serious about fighting for his spot, the moment he lost it he was off elsewhere.

Hungry hungry Hore. Had 2 in the square loose