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Doubt it. It's a mutual decision to trade him which means we are probably happy with anything at all. A late pick to use in another deal or a slight pick upgrade. Bennell turned things around because he was young enough to. Martin because he's a ruckman. Anything Blease does in his future should be seen as good luck to him not reflecting on MFC.

Sure you don't mean Blease? I've heard Blease to Carlton a lot, and wouldn't think they'd have interested in Tapscott.

All depends on delistings and how many list spots we have but:Mitch Brown, George Burbury, Taylor Hunt, Jordy Schroder and Jesse Stringer According to the HS all those cats are up for grabs. Don't think too much of Burbury. Stringer has disposal issues but has some toe and can run. Schroder is an ok inside mid too good for VFL but maybe not AFL, I'd probably pass whilst we are working on Michie and Riley to fill spots. Hunt is interesting, makes dumb decisions and poor skills but fast and can tag. Mitch Brown is a strange player. Does some wonderful things then goes missing. Very similar to his old junior team mate Jack Watts. I don't mind him at CHB but he needs a fire lit under him.

Still only 24. Question is can he play midfield or just defensive forward. Because otherwise 1 Roh Bail is enough.

Only team I really like is the Colts to beat Jacksonville, they simply have to win And I'll go with the Packers because at least if I'm wrong it keeps the division level for my Bears Ravens, Charges, Texans even the Cowboys (bless them) might be the logical pick, but I'm going to be unorthodox and go with: The Bucs, to bounce back from 0-2 against back up QB's and shock the Falcons in the Georgia Dome on Thursday night

You've got as much talent on defense as the Colts without Mathis, you've got a way way better offensive line and RB's, not a huge difference between the tight ends and WR's. They've got you covered at QB but sometimes there's only so much a QB can do. I thought they'd beat you being at home, but a close game was to be expected. Damn Indy, they haven't drafted or signed FA's very well. They haven't really developed a run of great players or any special systems. But they had 15 years of Manning, a gap year then 15 years of Luck. And they have Houston, Tenn and Jacksonville in their division. If they aren't some of the luckiest sports fans in the world then who is!

To come back from 14 down twice to start the season you have to be very good right? Particularly as one of those games will be on the road. So I think it's rare to find a team good enough to come back from behind once but also having the ability to be bad enough to go behind 14. That's my point really. The Eagles come back at Indy was remarkable, that they were ever down 14 to Jacksonville is just as remarkable!

Depends. If we get pick 3 for Frawley that pushes Dogs and Carlton to 6 and 7 respectively and Collingwood to 9. At 6 or 7 then I think one of those clubs bid. If we don't get 3 for Frawley then the dogs are at pick 5. They might look at the draft thinking - Petracca, Brayshaw if one other midfielder or tall defender goes before McCartin or Wright then they have a shot at one of them and don't want to be locked in to Moore. Carlton might be working a Kristian Jaksch trade and might need pick 6 involved in that. You never know. The way I see it is this whole article from Quayle (and she mentions it at one stage) is about Collingwood putting out negative vibes on Moore to try and get teams to panic and not nominate him. Even if they get Mitch Clark I don't see them skipping on Moore at 8 or 9, but they are trying very hard to get him through to the second round.

Not that fussed about the stat. Probably exists because not many teams go 14 down at home against Jacksonville. But a really good win tonight even if it was a tad lucky. Think your defense is a little more resilient than it has been and we know about the big play potential of the offense particularly with Sproles now in. Wouldn't say you are the real deal (in terms of winning a superbowl) as I think the defense is still not at the elite level needed to win a superbowl and I think your offense are limited by Foles and limited without a standout receiver. Growth from Foles, growth from Ertz and Matthews should see the offense get to the top level and then it's whether you develop a defense. Where you are is so well placed to win the NFL East and make a playoff run. Whilst you might not go deep this year with the way the NFC East is looking there's no reason you can't keep winning it for a few years now. The best thing I think about Chip Kelly isn't his fast paced game plan. I think it's that he gets building a team and building for a championship. He's interest in building his defense. He's the first coach in the NFL to really embrace AFL style sports science and training methods.

Monfries, Schulz and Ebert have all been pretty important pick ups for them. And all at unders as well. Came in from other clubs where they were on the outer and probably help provide a bit of a lift to the place where many of the others were pretty down and out. Unfortunately I think that shows the advantage WA and SA clubs have with recruiting guys who are open to fresh starts back home. Game plans I think are a bit underrated. Good footy is good footy whether you attack or defend. The best Ross Lyon teams could all score easily, just when they played top class opposition the games become a close struggle. What Hinkley does is teach the fundamentals of footy well regardless of the attacking game plan. Port tackle, they defend as a team, they put their bodies on the line etc. There was a patch of form in the middle of the year when we really looked like doing those kind of things under Roos. So let's be positive.

I guess that's the thing. Favre got the job done. I can see Luck becoming that type of player if he isn't already. But for Kap the two biggest games of his career so far - the Superbowl and the NFC championship last year Kap had a chance to make the big play and he didn't. Now he's won a whole bunch of big games - including shredding Green Bay a couple of times but he's now had a couple of chances with the game in his hands and failed. Then the other thing is he makes one read that's about it. If his designated receiver isn't open he takes off to run. Has to go through his reads if he's to become a great.

Yeah it's crazy. Overall he'll get hurt more taking sacks in the pocket than he will running I think but low and behold he gets hurt running today even though he was untouched at the time. He'll miss significant time now and this time next year could be traded to a new team. His rookie season was so good it seems such a shame.

3 INTs and lost fumble. The first half turnovers you might be able to cop. You've got a lead and are trying to break the opposition. But with the game on the line he scrambles and makes 2 more bad INTs. You need to make a huge amount of plays to justify that. Andrew Luck makes his share of turnovers, but more times than not the longer the game goes the more he makes plays instead of mistakes. Rogers, Manning, Brady, Brees Wilson, Luck Ryan, Flacco, Rivers, Newton*, Big Ben* He's never top 5 and he's not in my top 10. Although the gap between the bottom 4 or 5 of that lot and the next 5-10 QB's isn't really that much. It's a lot about having the defense, special teams and surrounding talent to make the QB's job easier. Stafford, Foles, Cutler, Romo, Dalton, Smith, even Eli if the giants put some talent back around him, they are the guys I'd have on the same level as Kap. Of course I'd take Kap over most of them because he's got the physical talent and is younger and cheaper, but it doesn't mean he's any better than them at this stage.

Actually think is very Brady...at least the story anyway. Michigan v Michigan State. Late v Late-ish pick. Both backups. Both physically unremarkable. Don't have big arms, don't have great athleticism. Both have classic white QB names! Both getting their shot to start post injury to the starter. Any crack in that ankle (which there is most times in a dislocation) and it's season over for RGIII. Then Washington will have a hell of a choice if Cousins plays well. Wouldn't it be hilarious if Washington ended up keeping Cousins and then traded RG3 to the Rams where he got back on track and the Rams had their cake and ate it too in terms of the RG3 mega trade

Despite a huge play taken off us after a challenge earlier in the game. So we deserved some luck. Hate when it turns in to flag football but so many times it's the players doing silly things. Cutler was good (or very good) Cutler in the second half. Kap was very bad Kap in the second half. He runs way too often and must not trust his receivers. I mean with Boldin just throw it up to him and he's good for a few catches a game even when he's not open. And Willie Young looks a huge free agent bargain. Thank you Detroit. 3 of our starting defense injured though. Our best special teamer and a back up defender. So 5 injuries to add to 2 OL and 2 WR's from last week (both who played and put in amazing efforts). When you look at injuries across the league you have to wonder if by playoffs there will be any good players left.

Yep. Guess with the ref's miked and the players often sound wired they can do it. But no one in the crowd's going to hear it! Silly. Just additional yards after the pick though so hardly a huge penalty.

Ray Rice went through the courts as well. The press conference gets over played. And Goodell may a horrendous mistake saying 2 weeks. But before Goodell it was open season for NFL players and crime. He's tried to tighten the drugs and personnel code up but just made things worse. Caught out dealing like Demetriou. He's a lawyer but he's not a judge. So he hears the Rice's version of the story, sees Ray as an overall remorseful decent human and dishes out a light punishment. If Goodell turned the player suspensions over to an independent former judge or attorney he might be on to something as a real system. As for Peterson, well I guess just because something is right in the south doesn't mean it's ok for Exempt for NFL charges. The photos are disturbing and so are the texts to his baby mumma. I get he's the Viking fans hero, but at 12-15mil his contract was too big anyway.

Saints, Cardinals, Seahawks for the tips Bears won't win. Defense can stop run and particularly running Qb's, receivers are injured and O line have concerns. They fit the bounce back from a poor week one narrative but not v the niners

And now all of a sudden I feel a good idea sounds bad. As soon as you mentioned MFC Board that is. Present to Jackson, Roos, Mahoney and the director of football (whomever that may be). The board can ask some standard HR questions once the executive have found the man.

Just started getting decent and did his ACL did he not? Plenty cheering him off on the stretcher, some legitimately, some in jest. He also had a crack but I thought he was too much of a Daniher favourite. Would've prefered others given more of a run and then if they failed to go back to old faithful Nicho.

Local footy success, TAC success, turned Coll backline in to a successful unit then took their midfield to the elite level. All sounded good at the time. The flaws I guess were that his head coaching was limited to Ocean Grove taking over post Brendan McCartney and that his time at AFL level was actually pretty brief. He wasn't a long serving assistant as others. Goodwin too doesn't have the longest of apprenticeships but he was presumably getting experience in leadership and coaching to an extent whilst captain at Adelaide and as a senior player there under Craig. Then he had however many years under Hird then the year under Bomber. So already that's 3 coaching styles he's been exposed to. Then he'll have 2 years under Roos. The major difference is that instead of finding the very best assistant out there and throwing them in the deep end by giving them the reigns we just have to find someone who has the potential and they can be molded. Given so many decisions are made by the senior coach at a footy club it must be a daunting task to come to a place and start with limited knowledge. Would be like sailing in the dark. The whole point of the succession plan is you avoid that. Because I think that's where Neeld made all his biggest errors in coming in a flogging a dead horse playing group instead of realising he needed to earn the trust of a playing group that definitely was underperforming but was also pretty lost.

Everyone at the club was involved. But you'd figure he was a junior assistant coach so not involved in the decision making. In some ways he's probably a victim like the players more than a bad guy. Any sanction might be light if he was willing to take one along the lines of the rugby league guys. It's a concern. But if he's the best coach in waiting you'd take the chance.

If I were an assistant and it was just Clarkson as the out clause - ie. 2 years under Roos, if then we can't get Clarkson you become senior coach if we can get him you can either stay as assistant or leave, I might take the chance. At worst you get 2 years under Roos and an option of 3 years under Clarkson all on senior assistant money. 99% chance you get the job. It would take someone willing to think outside the box. But thats how we got Roos in the first place.

I would seriously sign any successors on contracts that state that they stay as assistant coaches if Alastair Clarkson (or Ross Lyon or John Longmire) become available for the position in 2017. Otherwise we are living in the real world and should go with an apprentice. We can't afford to not have a plan. But safeguarding the contracts should a premiership coach become available might be the creative thinking that could be the best of both worlds.

Didn't see it in any other thread ............ So Caro last night on classified said Simon Goodwin is our number 1 target. Quite simply I don't know what to think but he'll have had some time at Essendon under Hird, some time under Thompson and then 2 years under Roos. Maybe instead of trying to worry about finding the perfect coach you just find someone smart, willing to learn and with good work ethic and you trust them to thrive in the post Roos system. With no coaches sacked so far and unlikely for any to be this offseason we do have the pick of the system if we convince someone the senior coach in waiting is a good opportunity. So I'm sticking by the succession plan. With Essendon out of the finals but still up in the air with so many other things regarding coaching I wonder what the timeline for Goodwin yet alone any other interviews would be and whether we are waiting to interview candidates from the remaining 6 teams. Sure Caro is on to Goodwin but it sounds like there's not too much leaking going around. Anyone else heard anything?