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Little Goffy

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  1. Trouble is, the only players I'd feel like it was worth 'targeting' would be players who are genuinely outstanding, so the trade cost for them would also be exceptional. Try as we might, '3 x average' can't be made to equal '1 x elite' Hmm... I see out positional needs as being - a) a genuine shut-down mid-sized defender with poise and skill coming the other way (not much to ask!), which is why I have a huge but mostly forlorn draft dream of grabbing Matthew Buntine. B) The solidly built key forward to be the monolith around which our brilliant collection of highly mobile tall and medium forwards can dance. I don't want Fevola though. And I don't want to pay too much in picks and trade to get that positional player, given that over time both Watts and Cook should develop quite powerful bodies themselves, so the problem may only be short term. I would happily trade our second pick for about 20kg of lean muscle to spread evenly across our forward line. Hmm... I wonder if the Kangaroos would cosider letting go of Lachlan Hansen? He hasn't been setting the world on fire but at 23yrs, 197cms and 95kg he certainly fits the physical/positional need, and would be with us for the long haul. It'd depend on what we had to sacrifice for him, obviously. I'm not under any illusions about him being a magician.
  2. The Roy Morgan figures on AFL support are collected as part of an 'omnibus' consumer survey that has been run every four(?) years for quite some time. The website 'Convict creations' used to have a brilliant [censored]-take of every club based on their Roy Morgan Data. Essendon fans are more likely to eat Mars bars? Go figure. I guess they like things that are soft in the middle. Meanwhile, Melboune fans were more likely to drink wine or 'gourmet beers', and were more likely to have post-school qualifications, by a considerable margin compared to other clubs. And yes, the general figure has been around 200,000 for a few surveys, so the 180k in the article is believable. As for the article, we all already knew the Swans were mostly 'fan light', though there is a core that deserve some kind of respect. But this claim that they are the 'stalwarts' is a bit rich. Like Sydney, they have a core of die-hards (the toothless bums we all know and... erm... know) but then there is a vast wad of hangers-on. A few points - 1. It isn't exactly an acheivement to have watched a game on TV most weeks, when all your games are free-to-air in prime time slots. Der. 2. If Collingwood has five times as many fans as the Demons, how come their attendances are not even twice ours? 3. In 2004 (8 wins) and 2005 (5 wins/tanking) Collingwood's attendances dropped by 10,000 a game. Soooo devoted. 4. For perspective on that, in 2005 the Demons clocked just 20,000 fewer attendences at home games than Collingwood. That would be Anzac Day right there. Plus considerations for games sold to interstate venues. And that despite a 9(?) game losing streak mid-season. So, if you are ever in doubt about this club of ours, just remember that Melbourne supporters are about five times as 'devoted' as 'Pies fans. How often do 'Pies memberships break records in consecutive years of utter on-field disappointment?
  3. You understand that Prendergast didn't have ALL the picks in the 08/09 drafts, right? Personally, I'd rather have Trengove over Martin, and Scully is, well, a moot point as of any moment now. But in general I don't think there can be a lot to be added by looking at who was not taken. Just who was, and whether they were good choices. Of course, it is also very difficult to judge given that Craig Cameron had a lot more time, but Barry Prendergast has had much 'richer' selections to work with. Similarly, everyone Cameron brought in has had time to be examined, whereas guys like Blease and Gawn can still only be looked at on potential. For me, I'd have to say Prendergast is ahead at this stage because I don't think he has had any dud drafts. Obviously he has also had a lot of high picks to work with, but even removing them from the equation, I think he has done well to always get a selection of players who have been credible as AFL level players. I think the absence of outright bad choices is the most you can ask of a recruiter. Plus the occasional Liam Jurrah or Tom Rockliff.
  4. So, a first round comensation pick can't be used this year, but later picks can, so long as the club annouced it before the start of this season. What if a club gets a compensation pick traded to them, and then wants to use it that same year? Guess not. I guess this also means that clubs which want to use a compensation pick in 2012 have to trade for them this year. Given the alleged super-draft of 2012 coming through, and the fact that there will be approximately 6 hours left of trade week once the GWS 17-year-old-meat-market is done, we could see a few heads explode in the rush to the line. But that is always the funniest part of the trade week farce, anyway.
  5. By the way, there is a 'game' (more of a nonsense way to pass time on trains) based on cliches. Pretty simple. Their cliches have come home to roost. A cliche in the hand is worth two in the bush. We're just taking it one cliche at a time. Well, it is better than the number plate alphabet game.
  6. It is looking like 'Cyril Riolo type' is replacing 'Ryan O'keefe type' as the pick of the draft talk clices. One from the players and clubs - "IT (the thing obviously distracting the players/club) won't be a distraction".
  7. "Future Captain". Excluded under the Brad Miller rule. "Will never be a premiership player / you'll never win a premiership with players like that". Excluded under the Steven Armstrong rule. Personally, I also hate it when people refer to "xx thousand years without a premiership" as if this is in some way an indictement upon the current club board and leaders.
  8. I wasn't quite sure how I felt about Cale Morton until I saw this post. Perfect summary, matter of fact, no drama. Nice work Nasher.
  9. I'm certainly with the sentiment here. Getting the very best possible 'whole of football department' together has to be the goal, with a solid coach apable of leading and delegating being the obvious pin to hold it together.
  10. We came out the winner from both deals. Bruce is leadership about as much as Green has been. I say that having made all manner of defence of Bruce over the years, and having all kinds of respect for Green. But neither are leaders. Green I thught might be, but that was when he was playing well and running on high confidence. It's a huge shame, but without confidence Green seems to fall away so dramtically it niggles everyone around him.
  11. I'm best described as a 'Don't know'; reckon he's going because it is the obvious right decision. You don't p!ss away half a million dollars a year. But hey, sometimes football makes people do crazy things. Put it this way - Scully if being offered a contract the size of the Debt Demolition campaign. I've also reconciled myself to the departure, with the trigger having been the 'promise' of two first round picks to work with. His poorer form after coming back from injury also eases the pain a little, at least in the short term. But seriously, the AFL have bloodied the culture of the game with this reckless and violent approach to setting up Gold Coast and GWS. The only reason I'm not actively hoping for a GWS huge failure is that it is the other clubs, players, and fans that will end up paying the price for Demetriou's inadequate plan.
  12. I can confirm what baysidedave said - The 'base estimate', from the AFL HQ, was $100m at maximum of $20m a year. So, yeeeah. It better work.
  13. Some would say that the $2m/pa CEO at the helm of a billion-dollar sport really ought to have better things to do than retaliate to a player's mum just trying to convince people that her son has good values... Sure earning his $500+ an hour there.
  14. Heh, Warnock and a mid-late pick for Dylan Grimes. Would probably need to be a three-way trade, to confuse Craig Cameron a bit.
  15. The dream for me is all about Matthew Buntine. Flexible def/mid, skills, good user, reads play, can shut down opponent, 187cm. At pick 12 we would be lucky. Sam Docherty also likely to be at around the pick 12 mark. Speedy defender/rebounder, good skills, composed. Later on, my preference seems to go for guys who have fun names to say. Mihocek (191cm, def/util) Raikiwasa (191cm, def/util) Tipungwuti (171cm speculative late pick) Plus, Can we get Myles Sewell just to help Casey out? He'd also work his guts out for a chance at AFL level which might wake some others up.
  16. Hale: was positionally valuable for Hawthorn but if he had been with us he might have been in the way of Martin's clear breakout year. Plus Gawn might not have gotten a taste this year either. As it worked out, Hawthorn and Melbourne should both be happy. We also get 'street cred', for want of a better term, for sticking to our acceptable price. Matthew Warnock gets the full measure of respect from me and I sincerely hope he finds a new club where he gets more opportunities, and stretches a hard-earned career for a few more years. Looks good in a snazzy hat, too.
  17. We could recruit Nathan Ablett to show the other guys how to get a premiership medal without really trying very hard. More seriously, I'd rookie Ah Chee. Based largely on what I was aware of the time of his drafting, I must confess. Plus his name is fun to say.
  18. Max Phillips needs a bit of a friendly whack over the head with the rolled-up paper the fish came in.
  19. Fair list, I'm happy with that overall. Interesting and kind of reassuring to see Rivers up pretty high - he improved over the season, and I like that he bounced back reasonably well after a truly horrid day out on Queen's Birthday. I also like that there's still plenty of love for him around here.
  20. 2010 8 wins, a draw, percentage of 95. 2011 8 wins, a draw, percentage of 85. We can rake over the details of two wins being over the Gold Coast, and we can stare grimly at the pattern of losses being huge losses, but surely the simplest summary is; "Something went wrong in the heart of the team this year."
  21. The possible 'Next Big Thing' list at Melbourne is just incredible. I think I have to say Trengove, even though he doesn't fit the 'next big thing' type so much as the 'ten years of genuine excellence' type. Much like Grimes. Now those are the kind of leaders that a club can revolve around. Consistent excellence with both able o get involved in the middle, while Trengove can move to a more attacking role and Grimes able to stabilise the defence. The othr pictures of consistency in a season marked by inconsistency have been Jones and Frawley. Jones - 23 Frawley - 22 Grimes - 22 Trengove - 20 Looks like the core of a long-term leadership group. Possibly just needs a consistent, charismatic forward to add to the mix... This has gone way off topic really, but can I make the stretch that my 'Next Big Thing' is the Demon's leadership?
  22. It is kind of a shame Myles Sewell sees to already be tagged gor GWS in the Rookie Draft, it would have been fun being the club that finally gave him a chance. The Sewell, Mclean, Valenti joint Liston winner scenario would be awesome, you could just throw the trophy in a pit and let them scrap for it.
  23. I guess the $22,000 covers the cost of having a 'on a tall building construction site it is compulsory to wear protective headgear' tattoo on his arm. Mind you, I'm getting the feeling it isn't so much the guy lodges the suit, as Workcover trying to offoad the costs onto MFC, who were neither the employer of the person nor the owner of the property nor doing any work for which the MFC had responsibility for. Odd. Makes more sense to sue a chip shop because a Seagull barfed on you.
  24. I got a little spasm of memory looking at the match report for WC rolling over the Crows. Let's take a time warp back to 2000... my best rationalisation of Collingwood hitting he skids is by thinking of West Coast as being like the Demons of 2000. The string of wins coming home, sneaking into the top 4, knocking off a contender in the qualifying final by staging a comeback when they thought they had the game one. So then... the contender goes through the semi against a toughish 'up and coming' opponent (Carlton played Brisbane in 2000, and in this scenario Collingwood would play Carlton this year). And then comes up against the other 'form' team and eventual premier (Essendon in 2000, let's say Geelong in 2011), and in the end doesn't even make the Grand Final, despite seeing themselves all season as having a 'right' to be there. If the scenario were completed, it would be West Coast getting into the Grand Final by beating Hawthorn (which is credible, since it would be over at Subiaco and all), and then getting tragically smacked in the GF. And then everyone would think 'well done those plucky Eagles', and they would think they were on the brink of something special, and spend the next 6 years clinging onto finals and onto older players, until it all comes undone and the club goes through hell later that decade. Oops... bitterness swept in a bit there. Back on a brighter side, the knocked out contender also missed out on a Brownlow Medal they thought they owned! So maybe we should make a loose tip for a West Coast Brownlow?
  25. Saw the story. Humans are amazing creatures, eh? So vulnerable, and so resilient. That story really got to me for some reason.
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