Adam The God

Maybe it's Chocco? He did babysit that other fellow that ended up winning 3 flags for Richmond.

The MFC aren't exactly great with comms, so don't bet on it.

I agree.

Well, there are definitely parallels with Grundy. Collingwood gave up his huge contract to a direct competitor and won a premiership that year. It might be the start of a much needed cultural change, but I believe the executive needs to change...

Um, skiperditoilet?

Things are never as good or bad as they seem, mate.

I wonder if we're clearing Clarry's salary for Butters'...

If we trade Clarry to Geelong for a future 1st and we end up paying anything of his contract, it shows how much we want him gone. Would be disastrous, but telling...

I wonder if St Kilda would give up their two top 10 picks for pick 3? If they did they'd be stupid...

December seems like a good time for a board take over. New president, new board, asap. Should have happened during the season, prior to list management decisions.

I'd trust Mach on this one...

If the Crows don't land him, they might double-down on Clarry, which gives us better leverage if that's the way it goes.

You mean like Deemocracy and Peter Lawrence have been saying for a while? I agree.

I want Pert gone, but there's no way Pert is acting on his own here. Sure, the FD may not be for it, but what about our board? If you're shopping around one of your highest paid players without board approval, you may as well tender your resignation. People need to be a little bit smarter about this.

The board lost me when the last two presidents emailed members telling them who to vote for, having installed candidates in casual vacancy positions just prior elections. As cultural issues have snowballed at the club, we've had persistently terrible comms (something Binman and others have been on about for years) through clear cuts to the comms department over several years; the board failed to deliver a promised 2024 strategy; we had a President who didn't even bother to turn up to the Presidents function earlier in the year (or send a replacement) effectively rendering us voiceless; the CEO couldn't manage to land a shorts sponsor despite having three top 4 seasons in a row; the CEO went on radio and essentially put a target on our back with ridiculous hyperbole about the best culture in 40 years; the board via Rennick as the mouthpiece said in Federal Court in May that members did not want them installing candidates into casual vacancies; and the wishy-washy PR update on the Caulfield home base etc etc. Look at who they installed as our latest President. A bloke that goes out and has a coffee with Guitnik and it ends up on the front page within days. We also continue to leak like a sieve under Green and Pert's leadership. I'm not exactly sure what there is to assess if you basically agree with you were never a fan of Pert's. As for this idea that you have to out yourself on an internet message board, it's bizarre. You don't have to agree with the information that Hawk is passing on, but to demand Hawk out who they are is really quite strange and IMO unreasonable. Finally, vis a vis all those links, I have no idea what you're trying to suggest... And btw, I've always loved you as a poster. You can have your view and I'll have mine.

Have you heard more?

No, I said 'if'.

Hang on, this makes little sense. You want Lamb gone because he tied up "one of our greatest players" to a long term deal?

It doesn't matter who he calls. If he has reached out in his capacity as a CEO, he has stepped into the list management lane, and he needs to be fired for it IMO.

I'm making an assumption based on us all of a sudden allegedly being open to trading Clarry.

But there is a difference between the FD knowing and the FD being told that we're moving on Clarry due to what has come out of the review. Either way, it shouldn't be Pert's job to be calling other list managers. Why have a list manager if Pert is going to make the calls? I don't trust Green either...

Don't we want good people given the head of footy role is very much a people role too?

I'd normally agree. I trust the FD, but if Pert is meddling in list management/FD matters, I don't trust the club at all...

Interesting.

What an odd post. You'd be a strong advocate for him, but have heard mixed things? What is going on today? Demonland is bizarro world.