Adam The God

Offence was good, but defence not so good... partly personnel, partly far too aggressive.

You certainly post like a child mate.

Interesting that old mate Craig Jennings is offence coach for GWS. No chance he comes back to us. Ben Hart is GWS' midfield coach and Leppitsch is obviously at Collingwood as Head of Strategy. Scott Burns has done well for Adelaide's defence, but is a South Aussie and also senior assistant at Adelaide, so unlikely. Cameron Bruce is midfield and stoppage coach at Brisbane. Tim Clarke and Aaron Greaves (coaching and innovation manager) have done well at Carlton. And then there's Stuart Dew. Bruce has had an interesting coaching career trajectory. Obviously, started at Hawthorn in 2013 and then went to Carlton with Bolton in 2017, and was sacked along with Bolton in 2021. He immediately got the job of midfield coach at Brisbane under Fagan (another Hawthorn connection of course) and has overseen their midfield the last two years. Be fascinating to see who we go for and whether their role is two pronged, midfield and ball movement.

Don't read the thread then.

Settle down, Stiffy.

And the gap in the 23-27 age profile can be filled via FA in the next 2-3 years. We're in a very good position. It's why the idea that we're nearing the end of our window is ridiculous.

I reckon there should be pressure on both their spots and I'm happy if Charlie moves on. Chandler in the VFL for mine, until he is more consistent.

I think he does.

Right, okay, thanks for that.

No, you don't. That would be the definition of counter productive. Fix one area of the field and maim the other.

Yeah, good call. 👏👏👏 Fmd.

Or maybe their midfield is thin?

Very different players and experiences, but the way some are overrating JJ reminds me of the way some overrated Frost on here, when many of us were saying we wouldn't miss him. The same goes for JJ. He might have some handy games in the future, but he's no Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Brayshaw or even Sparrow.

Werridee, of course. Mate, let's wait until we have at least finalised our list for 2024.

Well, if you follow the reds like me, you'll have had at least one good result this week.

You need strong, powerful strikers if you're going to play the long ball or rely on crosses. Collingwood are more like Liverpool under Brendan Rogers, super aggressive, but suspect at the back system wise. Liverpool almost won the 2014 title had Gerrard not slipped against Chelsea or surrendered a 3-0 lead at Crystal Palace late in the season. It's yet to be seen whether Collingwood have their own Gerrard slip up this weekend or next.

I think we've already been doing this soccer formation analogy with the Rivers/Gus position. They been given licence to float across in front of packs and roam free and someone has to push up to cover their man. It's likely a winger, or we use one less at the stoppage. But I do think it's a good way of thinking about the AFL game tactically.

Gonna stick this here for discussion on what needs to/could change tactically next year. I'd be looking to do something different with the 7th defender. So instead of playing B7-M8-F7, I'd be trying to play a third winger (B6-W1-M8-F7). So probably Hunter, Langdon and ANB from W1 and M8. Which means abandoning the loose intercepting / attacking half back that Gus played last year (less attacking) and Rivers played this year (more attacking). But instead, I'd be allowing two of our running backs more licence up the ground to run and carry (say Rivers and Bowey or maybe even McVee), use two of the wingers as defensive wing backs to slot in behind them and cover space or their men (and play as interceptors or 1v1s, ensuring the ball comes to ground), and give the attacking players more licence to try and hit central kicks through the corridor to higher mids or forwards in Trac, Fritta and McAdam pushing higher up the ground. This is with the knowledge we'd have extras behind the ball (at least two wingers) to repel a turnover attack. It's basically utilising a similar set up to Klopp at Liverpool, but with more players. It would take great coaching and discipline from our players, but I think so much football/soccer strategy has been adopted by the AFL in the last decade, that it's only going to continue. Goody has also been an innovator over the journey with the inside slider, the diamond defence, the extras at the stoppage, then the deficit at the stoppage, the focus on post stoppage pressure and so on. We have to find intricate ways to maintain our defensive positioning and impregnability, whilst being able to play fast and contested. This is one way.

Has anyone actually said top 10 pick for Lynch? I certainly wouldn't be giving up a top 10 pick for him...

Unless they see this as their Hawthorn end of 2022 moment or MFC 2010(?). A chance to improve their list with draft picks, so deliberately maim themselves to unearth players on their list and then finish so low, they'd be in line for top 5 picks before Tassie come in. Otherwise, they're in huge strife I reckon.

We're almost on the same page finally, but I'd prefer O'Sullivan as the second tall as opposed to an undesized Turner, who should be the understudy to Lever with his intercept play. Our forward half, which I believe needs the biggest improvement, we're pretty much in agreement on. I'd be looking to do something different with the 7th defender. So instead of playing B7-M8-F7, I'd be trying to play a third winger (B6-W1-M8-F7). So probably Hunter, Langdon and ANB from W1 and M8. Which means abandoning the loose intercepting / attacking half back that Gus played last year (less attacking) and Rivers played this year (more attacking). But instead, I'd be allowing two of our running backs more licence up the ground to run and carry (say Rivers and Bowey or maybe even McVee), use two of the wingers as defensive wing backs to slot in behind them and cover space or their men (and play as interceptors or 1v1s, ensuring the ball comes to ground), and give the attacking players more licence to try and hit central kicks through the corridor to higher mids or forwards in Trac, Fritta and McAdam pushing higher up the ground. This is with the knowledge we'd have extras behind the ball (at least two wingers) to repel a turnover attack. It's basically utilising a similar set up to Klopp at Liverpool, but with more players. It would take great coaching and discipline from our players, but I think so much football/soccer strategy has been adopted by the AFL in the last decade, that it's only going to continue. Goody has also been an innovator over the journey with the inside slider, the diamond defence, the extras at the stoppage, then the deficit at the stoppage, the focus on post stoppage pressure and so on. We have to find intricate ways to maintain our defensive positioning and impregnability, whilst being able to play fast and contested. This is one way.

We'd probably be fine with keeping him, but he was never going to break into our midfield permanently. An AFL level footballer no doubt, but not in a top 4 team. I've never seen an elite trait that would enable him to make a position in our starting 22 his own.

Thanks for the service, JJ. This is best for both parties.

He's a very solid ground ball player too.

We only need Lynch for two years. I've posited Lynch before, but would probably prefer a younger forward like JUH, Naughton, King ahead of him.