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Saints supporters around me booing. It was touched you bellends. Anyway, Saints will go on their run and kick a few goals in a row. But they're playing like they're at Marvel. Long and direct to King. We are gobbling it up.

Traffic is diabolical. Good luck to anyone getting there on time if you're not already in the city.

You still had lingering remnants of the Daniher era. Bailey was an egg shell, didn't hold the players accountable which was evident in how volatile the performances were. Neeld came in and gave a rocket to the likes of Green, Rivers, Davey, Garland, players that simply didn't play like we needed them to play at that point in their careers. He basically lost those Daniher era players, they had the lockerroom presence and thus the playing group was lost. It's no surprise that Viney, in his second game, was the only one prepared to speak up. How embarrassing that must have been for veteran players, to have a 2 gamer giving you a rocket. Neeld was a bad coach but he had the right ideas. He needed to drill in standards and hold the team accountable.

Simply mate. The scrutiny those clubs face after a few years down is enough to preempt decisions to avoid long "rebuilds". Melbourne and North both avoid that internal and external scrutiny. It took the AFL getting involved with Melbourne for things to turn around. Same will happen to North. Even if that means moving to Tassie.

I think the players actually like Noble. Neeld was pretty obviously disliked and no one seemed to play *for him*. North simply aren't up to it and don't have the cattle.

1. Goodwin 2. Roos 3. Daniher 4. Balme 5. Bailey Was too young to remember the Northy teams. Only memory I have from when he coached was when we lost to Essendon in 1992 after being like 50 points up at the start of the last quarter. Probably my earliest football memory. I remember it because the Melbourne supporters around me were in hysterics. Evidently so too were the Essendon supporters. I remember as a 6 year old feeling very overwhelmed by it all.

haha well we can tick off two of those boxes... But to my point, just a few things specific to AFL Members: 1. Food and beveridge options are pitiful. I literally leave the AFL Members to walk through to GA or the Ponsford stand to get food and drinks. 2. The entire place is in need of a mass upgrade. I pay almost $700 a year for a sports bar with broken TV screens and poor, fuzzy reception; broken seats; and a "fine dining" area about as "fine" board of wood with nails sticking out of it. 3. The speakers are so bad I seriously wonder if they've just ripped them out of a Nintendo GameBoy and stuck them on the wall. 4. Getting in and out has somehow gotten worse despite the logistics remaining the same. 5. There's fewer security and more [censored]. 6. There's fewer people than ever sitting in AFL Members, meaning the atmosphere is [censored]. I honestly think the AFL has given up on it all together.

Bit of hysteria in this thread. Prior to our GWS game we were averaging 50k for home games. Even after that poor turnout of 20k it was still a 41k average, good enough for second behind Carlton. Currently across home and away we are 7th behind Tigers, Blues, Magpies, Bombers and Hawks. We have a better home average than Collingwood (although they've admittedly had home games against GC WC and Adelaide) and have 40k average, same as Essendon, who have a 84k ANZAC Day home game in their pocket. Personally I feel like our own supporter turnout has been about the same as past years...internally the club must be a bit frustrated at that. But I wouldn't say our crowds have been bad. An Essendon supporter friend of mine said it was the first time he felt that Essendon had as many supporters in MCC as Melbourne. Normally he says we have about double. Either more Essendon supporters showed up than usual or MCC is letting us down. As someone that sits in the AFL Members, the turnout there is probably the lowest I can remember, probably not since 2008/2009. At the GWS game I reckon there was maybe 300 AFL Members there. Looking into the MCC, it doesn't look as full as it used to. BUT club members GA and Southern Stand GA is busier than it has been in past years. I definitely feel like MCC and AFL Members are the ones keeping crowds below where we expect them to be. As an AFL member the way we have been treated not just the past two years but the past decade has been shocking. The facilities are [censored] poor, ticketing is ridiculous and prices keep going up. During COVID it reached peak levels and I honestly think some fans are just sick of it. I can't speak for the MCC but I suspect it may be similar. I pay 700 a year which is discounted this year and yeah I am pretty much guaranteed a Grand Final ticket but the "experience" is just decisively average. In summary, crowds and growth might be below what we'd expect after a flag, but COVID has shined a light on how uninspiring the league has become from a fan experience perspective. They've just expected fans to return to the same pre-2020 product without realising that many have enjoyed football from home for two years, all the while actually presenting a *worse* product. Given that I'd say it's a miracle crowds are even what they are. And evidently, Melbourne and Carlton supporters are rocking up to home games more than any other team's supporters.

Round 21 2019 vs Collingwood. Next one will be this weekend vs Saints simply because this thread exists.

If Essendon pays half his contract I'd give up a 3rd rounder + filler for him Maybe Melksham lol

I think North Melbourne has a completely different indigenous name.

Which sums up why WC would be utterly insane to throw massive numbers at him with the legitimate intent to sign him. None of it makes sense to me at all. They'd have to part ways to 2x top 10 picks and a pretty big chunk of salary gap space. If they were pushing for finals and their window then fair enough but Eagles are looking at years at the bottom. They are way too top heavy on the experience scale. Their fans seems to think they will turn it around quickly but it ain't the 90s anymore.

Disgusting crowd number again

lol McDonald

Even when we're playing [censored], we're still playing pretty good lol

Three goals from turnovers at half back.

Gunstan, Bruest, Sicily, OMeara absolutely carving us up. The ball is falling into the hands of Gunstan and Bruest.

Relax.

Their transition and disposal out of defense is nauseatingly good.

"It's 2022 and manning up isn't a thing anymore."

tl;dr "Score more than them."

I don't think they do this. I am certain they still offer some casual chatter and insight during ad breaks.

This helps us in Jackson negotiations. Any player would be crazy to sign a contract beyond 2024 given broadcast rights will increase and thus push up player payments. 2 year extension and then revisit in 2024.

Was a good turnout by both teams yesterday. If Hawks can get up today we could well get 50k+ next week.

Give them a shot. I've rewatched every game except the Gold Coast game and they are all great gritty wins and much easier to enjoy knowing the result.