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The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
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The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
I don't know Flamingdee but his info is parallel to mine. My info is correct as it is first hand and direct. There is no "hear say" in what I have written and thus I suspect Flamingdee is not far off the top of the tree. Yet too many cowgirls on this site are prepared to smash and criticise the rare and only info that has some quality and truth. One thinks its time many of you grew a life outside of demonland. It is after-all the worlds smallest pond. For those who want to know where Hogan is at, the above post is worth a read. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
You make some good points, but considering what he is going through personally he should be given the time required to make the right decision for himself. The club has taken a complete back step while his family troubles play out. He is not going to make a decision by trade period. It is ridiculous and it would back fire if the club put pressure on him at this emotion time. Yes, he does have one more year left. He understands the pressure he and the club will be under while he is unsigned and thus will not let this play out. I expect that he will re-sign in the new year once his current troubles have played out. Unless he request a trade he will not be traded this trade period. Hogan not requesting a trade would be a very strong indication that he intends to re-sign. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Are you serious??? If you are not prepared to be offended or you are over sensitive for God sake never go onto social media.......... especially Demonland. The truth is the truth. Who and why are we protecting people from the truth? -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Goodwins comments here are exactly what I was told from another senior person at MFC. This is all true. All that is missing is the reason for Hogan's current stay in WA. His critically ill father has the potential of stuffing this up for us, but the truth is that it is extremely unlikely Hogan will not re-sign with the Dees. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Prestia preferred homes was always the Dees. He was coming here until Richmond offered ridiculous coin that we were not prepared to match. If he nominates the Dees he will still come to Melbourne be it on a significantly smaller contract. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Saber: I am just passing on what I have been told. You can dismiss it or accept it, personally I don't care. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Weeks not months. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Hogans old man is critically ill. Do you all not think this has something to do with his below average last month and at times poor body language???? Nothing is going to happen with his contract while Jesse is going through this terrible experience. He is contracted for another year, has told the club he will stay a Dee, but all negotiations have been put on hold while Jesse concentrates on his family and father. If this experience makes him change his mind and brings the "go home" factor into play, at least we will be well compensated, most probably with Fyfe. Fyfe is a free agent next year. Fyfe has indicated he will entertain offers. Freo is much better off getting Hogan for him this year who is worth two first round picks rather than one first round pick (compensation) next year. There have been discussions between the clubs. In saying that it is most likely that Hogan has not signed a new contract or asked to be traded by trade week. If this is the case it does not mean he is leaving at the end of next season. Simply he is concentrating on bigger issues at this time. It is highly likely he will re-sign as a Dee. All good management plans for the unexpected. The club has full expectation that he will stay. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Update: Jesse Hogan's old man's health has deteriorated. Naturally this is a difficult time for Jesse Hogan and as such contract negotiations have taken a backseat during this difficult, emotional time. However, Jesse has again confirmed to the club that he wishes to remain at Melbourne and sign a long term contract. The club has been contacted by Freo both club expect Hogan to stay a Dee as this is what he has been saying. However, if he was to change his mind over the death of his father Fyfe would be the trade. But let me say again, the club extremely confident (99%) he is staying. Also the club believes no player in the top 25 will request a trade this year. -
Brisbane should get a couple of them. They are doomed without a competitive list. We should have got one after 2013 or 2014. We were not given a PP as we were being punished for being found "not guilty" of tanking....... we all know the "not guilty" is for AFL legal reason with bookies. We all know we were as guilty as sin for tanking, we paid a terrible price for it. This should be a lesson for all.
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Grimes and Trengove future rests with Goodwin
Grand New Flag replied to dazzledavey36's topic in Melbourne Demons
No he didn't. GNF said Trengrove was in trouble. A decision has not been made yet. He is doing work experience with a leading Melbourne stockbroker Baillieu Holst. It is Baillieu Holsts view that he is likely to be delisted and they are considering him for a permanent position next year. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
I would not read too much into this. Josh is simply keeping the club honest in the early stages of negotiation. Hogan has said he wishes to re-sign, but no deal has yet been struck as such maintaining a market is what any good manager would do. This is standard. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
This morning I read some of the previous 6 pages. I simply cannot understand some of the posters on here. Some of you take yourselves and life way to seriously. Some of you clearly spend too much time on your computers and need to get out and enjoy your lives. Over the years I have presented Demonland with numerous scoops. Roos after round 3 2014, Mitch Clark playing on but leaving Dees (I think I broke this to the press) etc. Each one has been met with skepticism by many. I have given inside on some of the MFC trade targets, some have happened some have not. The sources have been various people in the club and player agents (I am close friends with 3). Demonlander’s are free to believe what I write, believe it is BS or believe I simply play the odds or link the dots (sometimes I do link the dots and then look to confirm). What you believe I don’t care, either believe it or dismiss it, but the social media movement of randoms heavily, aggressively criticising other randoms for posting info on a rumor blog is extraordinary and a poor reflection on the aggressor. Seriously! Now back to Jesse Hogan. I once again confirm my previous statement; he has informed the club he wants to play-on as a Dee. Contract negotiations have begun (or will shortly begin). He will sign a new contract with the Dees. If my info is wrong I will leave Demonland forever. I am sure that in the coming weeks the Club will inform the media of this development. So you keyboard haters, be my guest, waste your time cross examining every word, knock yourselves out with another 6 pages of dribble, its entertaining to me. -
Trengrove is in trouble. He has started "work experience" at top tier Melbourne Stockbroking firm BaillieuHolst. The firm is expecting him to be de-listed and as such is considering him closely for a full time role in 2017. Trengrove will have the network they are looking for, but will have to demonstrate he can be trained. I have no inside word on what the club is intending to do (its unlikely they have yet made a final decision), but that they have aided him in finding "work experience" and that BaillieuHolst is seriously considering leads to the conclusion he will be likely let go.
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The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
You are all more than welcome to convince yourselves that this is BS....... be my guest. My advice...... don't bother, take a deep breath a relax. There is no need to stress about this one any more. Obviously I can't say anything more. -
The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Grand New Flag replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
Confirmed: Hogan has informed our club he intends to re-sign. Contract negotiations have begun and will probably be completed this year but could take up to 6 months. -
Seriously guys when has a player ever nominated a club and then failed to get to that club? Its almost unprecedented. If Dion nominated the Dees he will end up a Dee. Our 2017 first round can be traded, we also have a plethora of small forwards to trade. Good small forwards are hard to find, we have them.
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Here, here!!
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Lets be clear. If Dion chooses us as his preferred destination, he will end up a Dee. You can never have too many A Graders. Those who say we have too many players of his ilk are being naive. How many midfield A Graders has Hawthorn had in the last 5 years? Many of them have had to play in alternative positions, but the key to their success is firstly recruiting them and secondly having them play their role which may only be periodically and briefly through the midfield. I have no idea what we will have to give up for Dion, but once a player declares a destination, the destination club is in a position of power. The departing club has rarely received market value, particularly since free agency. The acquiring club has almost never failed to sign their man once preferred destination is declared. My understanding is Dion will choose us. Hogan will re-sign along with McDonald. We are unlikely to lose regular 22 by choice. As I have previously said, I will retire GNF if I am wrong. This is the firm belief of our club.
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Oliver a huge loss.
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Trades are suggested and many are actively worked on through trade week. 1 in 10 or so turn to reality. That the trade was not completed does not mean that it was not on the table, and looked likely to be completed. Would you prefer I said nothing?
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No disrespect Ethan, but please tell me what I have said that was wrong? I gave you the scoop on: Roos as coach (round 5, 2013) - completely dismissed by 100% of demonlanders Mitch Clark - not really retiring, not prepared to play for Dees - completely dismissed by 90% of demonlanders Dees in make play for Tyson (was smashed for this one) To name but a few. I challenge you prove you 20/80 or shut up.
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The club is very confident that: Hogan will re-sign to a long term contract this calendar year. Despite reports to the contrary discussions with his manager are on-going and positive. We got close last summer. Dion Prestia will request a transfer to the Dees at season end. This means we will probably have to give up player and next years first round but in my mind this is utter gold. Dion is massively underrated on this site. Do not judge Dion by last weeks performance...... he played injured.
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Way to early for the predictor. Its an even season, teams will come into form, other teams will get injuries and lose their self belief. This happens every season and this season will be no different. I don't care what the predictor says, it means nothing....... if you win 12 games with good percentage you will make the finals.