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Bartram 20 possessions 100% efficiency. How about basing it on that??

Nil contendo - no contest. Stef for me.

Adelaide had a good fwd line so maybe they are looking for extra defenders??

Actually I think you are wrong. I clearly saw the ball hit the ground. And not that its relevant to the decision but he had a week and a half to get rid of it!

I'd like a wager you are completely wrong. What a stupid unknowledgable statement.

Ah, I get it. Joined a week ago. Being a complete [censored]. Trying to get a rise out of a few people. 'Double Agent' Tee hee. Oh what fun.... but ssshhh don't tell anyone I'm a troll....

Here's an interesting post from another thread. Its by a poster called Miracle. What it shows is that he's articulate, intelligent and has enough smarts to back up his claims with research. You on the other hand are probably 13yo with no perspective, no capacity to do research nor understand the structure of a team. When you've finished squeezing your pimples you might ask why and how Bruce came from a rookie list to get drafted and finish in the top 10 in our B&F consistently over a decade. Oh that's right you were probably 3 when he started. Good luck with your own footy career because its clear you have no idea. And when you want to do some research instead of making bald assertions then people might wish to have a debate with you. "Cameron Bruce has never been a champion but since 2000 he has been and still is a good player. I thought he played a good game but as usual there are demonlanders calling for him to be dropped and one even stated he cost us three goals. Am I missing something ? So to answer my own question I watched the game again. I only watched Bruce and I often rewinded the tape to make sure I did not miss anything. Its amazing how much you miss watching the first time. You often only remember the bad things. An example is Bate, he made two bad mistakes ( kick into man on mark and not kicking to Petterd) everyone just remembers that and not the many good things he did during match. So this is my view on Bruce's game. His role was to be a defender and due to the woods rotations he had many different opponents such Thomas, Anthony, Cloke etc. His direct opponent did not kick a goal, he was never beaten one on one, and the possessions his opponents had can be counted on one hand. He often blocked for his teammates allowing them to mark. Leon Davis is difficult to tackle so how many of you remember that great tackle in the last quarter which earned Bruce a free kick. So as a defender he earned a big pass. So I will now move on to his possession game and execution skills as everyone bags. Tony Shaw bagged Bruce for a turnover that cost a goal in the first quarter, I'm sure a lot of you did to. Bruce marked the ball from full back and McKenzie ran passed for handball. Lets stop here, It is Mckenzie's responsibility to look ahead for clear space before demanding the ball. Bruce was facing the woods goal so its his responsibilty to make sure that no one is catching Mckenzie before he handballs. Bruce marked the ball and gave it to Mckenzie who was clear, Mckenzie ran a few metres but stopped because a woods player appeared behind Bruce, he panicked turned around and handballed to Bruce who had three players around him. He was tackled with a resulting goal. On this occassion Bruce did everything right but Mckenzie made the mistake. Shaw had another go at Bruce for a handball to Bate. Yes it was low at Bate's knees but he received OK and gave a good handball of. It was the next passage ( trengove) which made the error yet Bruce cops the blame. Bruce had 19 possessions and they all and I repeat ALL hit the target. He did drop a chest mark from a kick in but he quickly gave a quick handball to a running defender which commenced another inside 50. So in summary he beat his opponent all day and had 19 possessions which ALL hit the target. So all you Bruce bashers out there, get hold of a tape and watch it with pen and paper. On the left had side write all the good things he did and on the right the bad. Please do not come back to me and state I remember this or I remember that. If you want an intelligent debate tell me at what point it happened in the game." edit: sp

Also depends where the t/over occurs

I have a family membership for 6. Given there are only 5 of us I nominate the kid across the road. He's not a Dees supporter but nearly over the line as I have been giving him the membership showbag for 5 years! Its not only about revenue here guys. The number of supporters is crucial. we need to be 'seen' to have a lot of support. That's why its critical the MCC members also sign up. The Hawks have been using dodgy membership stats for yonks, with dogs, cats, plants etc all being nominated under 'family' type arrangements. No-one questions their membership support. It's all about numbers. That will lead to better fixturing, sponsorship etc. Trust me

Year and the team finish for the Rising Star winner 93 13th 94 14th 95 15th 96 4th 97 9th 98 1st 99 8th 00 12th 01 15th 02 15th 03 9th 04 5th 05 12th 06 12th 07 1st 08 14th 09 6th Makes sense that the teams with the higher draft picks are over represented in the winners column.

Good on you for doing the stats on this. My guess its a matter of expectations and selective memories. We expect him to be a good player. His errors though it would seem are often glaring and I have witnessed on many occasions when he has been under no pressure and missed targets or worse goals that he should have got. Senior players should be judged more harshly but it does seem a lot of Bruce's work goes 'unnoticed'. Altho not by the club that keep voting him high up in the Bluey.

I suspect most nominations come from teams that have won in the round they are nominated but I don't believe you have to be in a winning team. Reiwoldt and Kozitchke won it in 2001, 2002 when the Aints were shizen. Edit: Just checked and the Aints finished 15th both years.

I wouldn't read too much into it. My brother was up on assault charges when he grabbed an Officer's shirt (Because the Officer has pushed him!) and a button came off. Between the media and the coppers stories can get a little out of hand!

Gee, at the moment I'd like 1 win......

Who cares?

You need to be nominated by Rd 8 to win it. In its history only 2 players nominated after Rd 8 have won. Kozitscke(Rd 14) and Cousins (Rd 12).

He didn't need to be match fit to spot Petterd standing alone in the goal square in the last minute of the match! He could have won the game.

Who are you??? Ross Oakley???? Leave the game alone!!

Was definitely his preferred left foot.

And we play Adelaiade, Richmond and North in the next four weeks! All teams below us!!!!!

Great match up. Not too many would have predicted that before the game. In fact I think most of the match ups today were superb. Grimes and Frawley killed Didak and Medhurst.

Great match ups today. DB deserves a lot of credit. Jnr on Swan Grimes on Didak Petterd on Shaw Davey in the middle Bennell in the fwd line Even Newton as a back up ruckman! McKenzie in the middle was outstanding. Jamar blitzed Fraser and Jolly. Good work coach.

What about the last quarter????? Shaw trying to evade a tackle and getting caught - no free. Bennell on the MCC wingheld around his lower legs no less reaching out for the ball on the turf 2metres in front of him!!! Umpire 22 missed the most disgraceful holding free to the Dees in our backline and 20 seconds paid a soft holding free against Scully (who had knocked the ball clear in his tackle) for a Filth goal. Robbed.

If we get the ball in 44 times its imperative that the ball is kept in there until we score. That shaw ain't happening.

Charles got his wrist infected I believe because he went against doctors orders not to go swimming in the Murray River or similar. That was the beginning of the end.