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Asking for clarification on your own contention, using your words, is a straw man? Okay.

What are you genuinely talking about? You’ve gone from stating that the ‘club’ should bring a legal claim against The Age, for ‘lies’, proceeding to ask for a ‘quote’, and now your stating that ‘this is a forum discussion not a published article’, yet your first point is directed at an article published by The Age. Honestly, it’s beyond nonsensical.

Ah yeah, nothing like a good old straw man to really prove a point. Well done, a resounding showing of critical thinking.

He’ll be right at home. Bring him in, fellas!

Similar to just claiming something as a ‘lie’, yeah?

I look forward to the accompanying turnover.

Fanboys gotta blame someone.

Nailed it.

I can't speak for the original poster, but essentially, diagnoses are often used as a shield, often without any nuance. Whilst there are legitimate reasons and occurrences where a diagnosis can play a part in an aggravating / mitigating manner, to have it bandied about in such a trivial manner, is not only disingenuous but completely trivialises and diminishes legitimate cases where a diagnoses is a causative mechanism. I'd also suggest in many cases, these factors are far more causative than enabling.

Agree with all points, and for all the faults of the club - there was nothing more that could be done to support Oliver. We as a club absolutely lent in to support him in an authentic and genuine manner. It went far beyond traditional window dressing and I'm actually proud of the club for this. What is absolutely disappointing for mine, is the toing and throwing the club has done over the past two seasons with Oliver. It's weak and frankly pretty embarrassing. We made a decision to back him in and mend the relationship, yet the club has acted akin to a parent that makes empty threats and everyone knows it - including the child; a real "if you keep doing that, you'll be getting out of the pool", and then the parent never delivers. If we're at a point we're the relationship is untenable, or the concerns around Oliver and his behaviour/standards can no longer be tolerated, then get him out. The weakness of the club in this regard is embarrassing and frankly somewhat farcical.

Agree, the days of Oliver being worth a top ten pick, let alone multiple top ten picks, are gone as it stands. The writing on the wall from the situation is that Oliver will go. I suspect some posters on here will be in for a rude awakening regarding the return.

I can't stand Goodwin, and I have huge issues with Pert and Roffey, I'm on the record there. But the club can't be blamed for Oliver's immaturity, extraneous strings pulling at Petracca and ANB has legitimate reasons to go back to SA. I completely disagree with your definitive statement on ANB; and until you've been in a situation like that there's no point projecting. Whilst I somewhat agree with your point around the environment being subpar, the whataboutism is a completely hypothetical point.

What was said that was incorrect?

Four vastly different situations.

Fair summation. I'd have Peatling in the 'nice to have' category, but I realistically wouldn't be giving that sort of a player a five year deal as has been mooted.

Well, according to some, if it wasn't for Maynard we would've won the flag. According to others there's a media vendetta against the club. A look into the majority of topics on here provide an endless amount of excuses as to why there were straight set exits the previous two years. You don't have to look far at all.

Yep, it definitely is. I got an auto-renew for the presumably for little fella's membership which I will be rolling over, but there appears to be a significant price increase and I have no idea what I'm even receiving.

Love the name and reference! Also, great post. The perennial victimisation of Melbourne supporters, by Melbourne supporters, is frankly laughable and one the reasons why we collectively have little credence amongst the wider AFL supporter community. As I've said previously, in the eyes of many Melbourne supporters, our failings are always attributable to some 'mitigating circumstance'.

Thanks, appreciated. Yes, I'd also noticed that r.e other clubs appearing to have begun sales/advertising 2025 packages.

Is anyone able to shed some light on when the 2025 packages (outside of MFC/MCC) will be displayed on the MFC website?

Received an auto-renew email, but was told last year I was unable to pay membership via the club as it was an MCC/MFC renewal, therefore it had to be processed by the MCC. In previous years the club was definitely able to role this over, hoping that the club has once again reverted to be able to process the MFC component.

That was just my erroneous transcribing, edited.

Sorry mate, just one of my many faults.

Melbourne strongly targeting Brisbane’s first round pick, currently Pick 15 (1112 points). Sending pick 25 from Adelaide (756 points), Pick 38 received from Sydney (465), and Pick 50 will give the Lions 1,494 points to assist with the acquisition of L. Ashcroft.

Bring him home.