Nasher

There would have to be some provision for this I'd hope. Perhaps give the foundation clubs the ability to "zone" a certain number of players (say, up to 5) - we'd then take Daisy and whoever else. It would be stupid and unfair if we lost her after all the effort we've gone to in order to promote her as part of the club brand.

The difficulty in deleting quotes is definitely and without a doubt a bug. It's 100% reproduceable for me under Chrome - happens every single time - and quite annoying. The auto-retaining of posts in general is a feature, and a handy one.

Nup.

I think anyone with anything sensible or constructive to say has now said it.

It's not really logic, it's just being a grinch. We can all do without the reminder of the previous false dawns.

The words weren't used explicitly, but if that wasn't the point of Curry, WYL et al then I apologise. I certainly can't find any other meaningful point to their comments.

That's very sad. As a society, we should be very sensitive to casual violence. That's more or less the essence of this whole topic, really.

I don't think that's been asserted by anyone. I can only speak for myself of course, but all I have tried to do is highlight why a threat of violence isn't something that should just be shrugged off, trivialised or excused.

It's an extreme point, but the point is, when you're in the position of the victim and someone with power over you threatens you, you've got no way of knowing if they're serious or not and the feeling of intimidation doesn't change. I grew up in a pretty rough area. I lived really close to school, so sometimes I used to walk home on my own. One day when I was about 9 or 10, an older kid started walking behind me. I started speeding up a bit, he started speeding up a bit. He followed me for two or three minutes, swinging a can on a chain, before he caught up to me. He asked me if I'd ever been bashed before, I said no. He said this was going to be my first time. I just stood there, shaking my head, teeth chattering. I begged him not to and started backing away slowly, but I was too terrified to run. He started edging toward me and I thought I was gone. I pissed myself on the spot. He then laughed, and went "I'm just joking, kid" and walked off. I ran home as fast as I could. I didn't think his joke was funny. I had never been so afraid in my life. Did I go "hey, it's fine, he didn't actually bash me?" Did my parents take that view? Fuck no. I was terrified of walking on my own anywhere for months afterwards. Months. Would I have been that much worse off if he'd *actually* bashed me? Maybe, but in my mind not much. The psychological damage was hard enough to recover from. Furthermore, I felt like a real dickhead for pissing myself, and for being scared of some guy who actually didn't really have any intention of hurting me, but how the hell was I supposed to know that at the time? He sure looked like he meant it. Threats of violence aren't akin to actually inflicting violence, but psychologically they can have a similar effect.

I wonder if I sent a death threat to the Prime Minister, whether the police would go "hah! It's okay, he didn't *actually* kill the Prime Minister..."?

This thread is already really long and I haven't had time to add my thoughts, but since stuie seems to be taking everyone on all on his own, I thought that I'd just say that I have agreed with every word of his that I've read so far. Short summary of my views which I'm too tired to really debate: Martin is out of control and anything less than a sacking is getting off lightly It is in absolutely no way, shape or form the woman's fault for provoking him or such You're contributing to our culture of excusing violence if you think it is in any way, shape or form her fault If you think she should have gone to the police and kept her mouth shut in public, you're woefully naive about how much interest the police would have in this kind of matter If you started a post with "he shouldn't have done it, but...", you've said all I needed to hear and I read no further All violence is bad and is a problem, but male (domestic) violence against women is issue #1 at present. That isn't devaluing the issues others face or mean others don't need/deserve support, but this is the most prevalent issue and therefore the most urgent issue

No thanks necessary for me, I was just a spectator this time. Andy oversaw all the work with the help of a few of the forum software support staff.

Bulk moderator actions on the mobile skin! This is great news, people. This means those of us who do the bulk of our browsing on a mobile device will be able to cull hijacked threads on the fly. It was a major limitation on the previous version and a reason why I couldn't moderate anywhere near as effectively as I'd like.

I heard a few weeks ago (second hand) that the club was very happy with the condition he came back from the break in. It's all anecdotal stuff but it tells the same story. Exciting stuff.

How does one pronounce "Hulett"? I assumed "Hull-ett" but thought I heard others say "Hew-lett"?

Sweet, so going by this thread so far, he's a perfect player with no knocks. Sounds great as a 21 year old rookie pick!

Akum already made a better version of that joke.

13 for Oliver (looks like McKenzie), 33 for the Weed (Wayne was 33 too), 34 for King and 38 for Hulett for mine. Harmes to move to 26.

They are both unique.

The original Weid didn't actually look as ugly as I remembered. If he did away with the mullet and had a shave he'd almost look like a human being, rather than the ogre I remember from my childhood. Moving on...

I'm just disappointed my Wayne Weidemann joke fell flat. Maybe nobody remembers who he is.

Having watched the highlights, I now get the Jordie McKenzie references. Again, not a reflection of expectations or quality of player, just looks and style. He's a dead ringer I reckon.

Who?

Another forward. 194cm.

199cm forward/ruckman, apparently. Two M.Kings on the list, competing for the same spot. Not going to be very confusing. Not surprising that we've gone for a ruckman IMO, thought it might have been with a rookie spot though.