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There has to be more to it then that. I've heard jordan lewis aay the exact same thing.... moving on from a loss Maybe there is also no conspiracy and the fd and jw have just decided it's time for a change... But as i typed that i remember jw saying he wanted to stay. But even that could be theater from jw.

O mac

T mac was very impressive as a forward this year. dare i say maybe even more consistent then Watts?

Haha cmon mate. You're the one who brought up the.comparison Id take Jones over Watts evey day of the week, if that's your next comparison

Agreed Max is not an unreasonable comparison But Max was also an AA and has injury hamper his develpment. How many times has watts been AA again?

You'd think that would have to be the whole leadership group. Last time i checked we had 5 in there and I'm pretty sure NJ isnt operating alone

It must be just a strange coincidence as the watts rumours started so did the Goodwin and Jones criticism. Haha demonland, who needs tv when you can listen to grown men cry

Or he could do nothing special like his 8 years at Melbourne.

Can we keep the sooking out of the trade rumor thread

This is going to get out of hand. It will be Goodwin the trade period os over

No [censored] sherlock

Agree there is a lot of crazy comments atm and the JW fans seem to blame everyone but JW for JWs current situation. Isnt ironic the jones and goodwin threads have emerged right now? Just to comfirm my stance. I dont care if JW stays or goes. But his captians comments recently haven't painted jack well. and if trading JW makes us better, so be it. Let's remember these standards arent set by goodwin they're voted in by the leadership group about how they want each other to act/perform.

100% spot on While i accept JW is a favorite and we're not even 100% sure he's actually gone yet. If trading JW makes us better I'm all for it. And that extends to all players on our list. Except maybe tracc haha

You obviously dont read demonland much tappy. Otherwise you'd know it's all goodwins fault not our jack.... Haha keep the fun up mate

Tom Dyson or one of the Mac brothers shirley?

Unfortunately hasn't AHG jumped ship?

While I agree this is a place to share thoughts (and I'm not targeting you as you're not the only one upset)... but no one really cares about your feelings.... No offence to you personally, this is a footy site not Oprah

Rumoured to have been spotted at Crows HQ today

Don't stress yourself with pay. None of us know our tpp or where we're at with the Salary cap. You'd be better off guessing the Tatts numbers for saturday The mid is very interesting. GC comes to mind but i have no idea who we'd be looking at Another quick point on caps - there is an ASA cap and a Salary cap - Whos to say how much of Lever's salary is which or where we are at with this. Speculating about TPP right now in our cycle is pointless. When we have a bevy of stars and can't afford to keep Hunt type players you'll know we have a problem.

You're doing it wrong you're posting actual rumours.... Haha jokes thanks mate...

Couldn't be worse then the JW sooking? Surely?

Waldren hates the dees. He's probably heard th wa clubs have spoken to Hogan's manager and gone thr ol' hogan to wa is in the blah blah blah. Always has been a [censored]

Sorry I must have missed something.... who blamed Watts ans Salem?

I agree with the points here... But in fairness you are and from the outside you can only assuming these things weren't taught or coached. There could be reasons why execution wasn't perfect through out the season.

I trust goodwin more because he wants to teade Watts. Soft club is soft