Lord Travis

What comments? Did not see him interviewed...

If the rumors are true and he wants to come home to Victoria, we need to offer him a good deal so he nominates us as his preferred choice. If GWS don't play ball then he could walk to the PSD and we get him for nothing with PSD #2. A 2nd round pick would be a decent option in the end if they have to lose him and are forced to play ball.

We need to land this kid. A tough inside midfielder who consistently finds ball. He's already averaging more disposals than nearly all our mids. If we can get him for a 2nd round pick or even in the PSD if he walks, then we have a bargain. He will give the club 10 years of service as a tough consistent inside midfielder. Jones, Viney, Adams is a good starting trio at the centre bounce!

You are correct. Lake was traded, as was Monfries. I suspect clubs will trade with low picks or exchange of picks to dilute compensation for players that don't demand much currency. We should have traded Byrnes in with a late pick, as getting him as a free agent ate into our compensation for Moloney and Rivers. Not that we would have got much, but it's something to consider. Lake was traded. Here's an article so you don't have to bother checking. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/hawks-snare-lake-in-afl-trade-coup-20121008-2794k.html You are right though, Unrestricted Free Agents can walk, though clubs may organise trades to dilute compensation if it's an amicable situation.

He's not an elite kick. He has great speed, great build, is good at getting first hands on the ball, always moving at stoppages, can burst forward like Dangerfield, can also play forward and kick a few goals. He can shank some kicks, though he is generally good without being elite with kicking. I'm definitely on his bandwagon. If we get another pick the first round via Priority pick or trading I hope we get this kid into red and blue.

28 disposals and 3 goals today from Conca. Pretty low pressure game, but he is doing all the right things and goes a bit under the radar at the Tiges due to the big names like Cotchin, Martin, Deledio. If we can get Conca across, then we'd be fools to try. He can play as an inside mid, or an outside running mid who kicks goals. He is well rounded. If we get him across, I'd draft a bigger bodied inside midfielder like Nathan Freeman come draft time.

I think Freeman will be a star. He's well built, has good pace, loves the stoppages and can tear forward and kicks goals. I'm hoping we trade to obtain another first round pick to use on him.

He was brilliant at his peak, and he changed the game with his pressure back in in his early years. I'll be sad we have one less one-club senior player running around next year, and one who appears to love the club and help others out when he can. Congratulations on a good career Aaron!

Clearly not happy with the club at the moment. If he wants out then let's get the best trade we can for him. Trade him for a promising young midfielder. We need midfielders!

We should look to bring him to the club as long as it doesn't cost too much. He will attract a lot of attention at the end of the year. He was the buzz player in preseason this year, but wasn't able to put it together when the Lions were struggling early on in the year after a good NAB cup. He's got a lot to offer as a half forward/wing/half back. He's got good dash, decent skills, and is a great size. At 190cm and 88kgs, he's a the prototype midfielder, and at only 21 years of age could still have a lot of development left in him. If we can get him for a second-third round pick, or better yet, in the pre-season draft, it would be a good get for the club going forward.

If we don't improve next year then I hope the club folds. All this is doing is destroying the reputation and proud history we once had. It's embarrassing and nobody deserves to go through this any longer. I just don't understand how the players can run around and not try as hard as they can! They should all have KPI's to hit eg. 5 tackles per game, and if they don't hit this then they shouldn't get paid. If I didn't have to work get results in my job, I wouldn't be paid and I'd be fired. I don't understand how footballers are different to all the rest of us working for our money. As a club, we are worse than Fitzroy before they folded, and we will go the same way if it doesn't turn around fast! So ashamed right now.

It's sad to see Jack Grimes like this. He showed real promise a while back, but he is playing at a VFL level this year. I know he's had injuries, but he's mid way through his career now and he's still not what he should be and is going backwards at a rapid rate. Really sad to see for someone who was so passionate about the club.

Agreed. This is the first game this year I would say the umpires have favoured us over the opposition. We're lucky we're not further down with the lack of pressure applied today. How the hell we were more than 10 tackles less than GWS when they had a stack more ball is an indictment on the playing group not trying or working hard enough. Pathetic.

We're going to lose this now. We'll be the only team to lose to GWS this whole year. I think the 2013 Melbourne team is the worst I can remember watching play in decades. I'm ashamed to be a Melbourne supporter and member today. The club has failed, and even with AFL assistance we're going to struggle to be competitive, let alone win our next flag. I honestly thought 6 years ago when the rebuild had started that we were building towards out next flag and I'd finally get to see one in my life... how wrong I was. We are worse now than ever, and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. I have lost all hope today and it's very depressing. How did this come to be?

Would LOVE Jack Stevens in red n blue. He has come on massively this year. As a young midfielder he has pace, decent skills, ball winning ability, goal kicking ability, he really is a well rounded package. His bursting out of congestion this year has been like a younger Judd. He's exactly what we need so I'd gladly give up pick 1 for him and pick.

Let's hope he can return next year. If he breaks down again next year then you'd think that's it for him. It will be a Matt Egan type scenario. Such a shame as he was killing it when he first came across, but now his career is in the balance and we're wasting a ton of money having him just sit there. Sucks for him and the club!

2nd round pick. He looked like he would become a star back in 2009 and was a smokie for the Brownlow and dominated in finals. Since then he has been average and in and out of their team. Now 27 from memory so wouldn't give up a first round pick for him as he is a B grader. He would definitely slot into our team well though so if the price is right then I'm all for it!

I'd say Aish plays like Cotchin, and Scharenberg reminds me of Sam Gilbert or Grant Birchall. Aish will be a well rounded midfielder. He'll start off more outside due to currently weighing 74kgs, but once he adds a bit more size he will develop inside as well. He goes when it's his turn, and his movement trough traffic and ability to hit targets under pressure is brilliant. I don't think Scharenberg will ever become a proper midfielder. He'll likely become the general of a teams backline in that he'll help his teammates out defensively and also rebound well. He'd definitely be an asset, but we need midfielders and Aish is a more talented player, we'd just need to develop him properly!

Game over. Poor quality game and hopefully Garland's injury isn't too bad.

Garland left ankle problem. Done for the night, not sure how bad it is yet.

Good effort to be in this game still. It's very poor quality standard of football though!

What's happened to Garland?

WTF WAS THAT KICK TRENGOVE

For the record, James Aish was BOG in the SANFL today. 23 disposals and 3 goals and the highest DT rating on the ground. The kid is already doing it against men while getting tagged. He's a freak talent.

Grimes ws on Rockcliff then moved onto Rich. He got toweled up by both of them. He's having a shocker!