beelzebub

More likely they were prevented from presented al lof what they had in a meaningful ( i.e was going to be listened to ) way !!!

WOW !!! where did that reasonable and honest appraisal come from. ?? It really shows up what a collaboration between the AFL and the EFC it has been to date to try to manage--the-damage !! Has been nothing about truth ,about responsibilities or even taking ownership of events. All about deflection and cover-up and BULLSHlT !!! I sense another section of the media, having now smelled a good story, will start feeding out similar efforts. Then watch the public's tolerance for the Hird-Brigade wash down the drain. Whilst I note the general Aussie population has a capacity to back the 'under-dog" ( and by crikey these lots are dogs !! ) that teh public will side with some tilting at windmills, that theres a general distrust of authority ( well founded for mine ..lol ) that even with al of this there is no appetite in this country for CHEATS, LiARS and CHARLETONS. Oz loves a TAll Poppy to cut back down to size and little ol Golden Boy ( and mates ) have made themselves bigger than Ben Hur. The Axe is coming !!!!

Then it will be......wasn't our dog.....we had a cat.......called Rover !!!

CAS will decide and be based upon WADA guidelines.AFL has nothing to do with it now.......hallelujah

delicious isn't it, too clever by half lol

It's the inability to show a probable capacity for anything else that should do it....if ones comfortably satisfied

how aboutThey can show tb4 intended at efc Can show not Thymomodulin protocoled or used Can show something compounded by Alavi for Danks Danks business doesn't deal in any other Thymosin other than tb4 Essendon did have a program, did use something......called Thymosin !!! Balancing probability suggests they used what was sought Short of any proof to the contrary.......they're guilty

Hird he is !!

Ings...the new Captain obvious.... any of us could have written that...oh wait..many have , here...months ago... Guy's a frigging " get my name in the papers junkie"......probably shows up at kindergarten openings and puppy shows ...to do pressers !!

Generally YES...but for a while he went off with the fairies and seemed to go along with some fanyboy ideals. Hes obviously 'woken' up again..Interesting...He wont be alone in finding a realignment back to the 'truth' SO many though run with the Hare and hunt with the hounds !!

yeah...... but Hird is SOooooooooooo clever !!!!

I agree ..anything he says is rubbery but that in and of itself doesnt preclude the notion that he would have wanted/needed a record of his 'experimentations" How else can you draw results, modify etc.. You need to no what went in and outcomes. Thats how it works..methodology requires records. Matters not whether your dDr Evil or Curie.. the way of doing things is still pretty much the same !!

SYL i think this is the case. Ive always thought he would have to have a set/copy of what he was doing. He would want to know....he is after all a Scientist ( lol )

I suppose there is always the notion there are two basic elements to this monstrosity of an occurrence. Firstly that anyone or group would set out upon such an ad-hoc misadventure into chemical enhancement of a team without knowing what it really was they were using or any or all of its down side, let alone imperial benefits. That this was obviously beyond pushing an envelope or why so clandestine and nefarious. Those seeking to undertake such a wrong doing need to be hauled before the powers that be and punished. Its the second component which strangely ( for mine ) divide many. The idea that that the players were but pawns. The players are without doubt complicit but i can see how in some manner they are also the victims of naivety, stupidity and blind unfettered 'club worship' at best but foolish and self destructing, uncaring deferal of responsibilities at worst. I truly have no sympathy for any of them. The club are ratbags for having started it and now still persisting with their re-invention of what took place. Its beyond reprehensible, beyond scandalous to me it smacks of the criminal. The club should be dealt with in that manner and Im of the opinion Worksafe will do just that. The players simply cant evade the notion they did wrong. They bought into the scheme . For some it may well have been through peer pressure and such but where are all the mentors, the guardians, the parents. I dont blame many of them per se ( parents ) , though Watson's actions as a father for mine border on the despicable having effectively sold out his sons welfare for the betterment of the club. Given everything thats transpired I would have expected a break away group of parents. Those who place more reliance in their own gut intuition and devotion to their kids than playing along with any maniacal scheme over-seen by those with only self interest at heart These parents have much to answer for in my opinion. Theyve made some quasi faustian deal if only at the level of co-conspirators by not blowing any whistle, though I do wonder in this day and age whether some weighed up the simple financial inducement to remain schtum ! WADA has limitations of the penalties it can impose on the club but it should throw every single one it can as a message to all "You dont do this " this and of itself would also I should think help other authorities like WorkSafe find their direction and goal in dealing with those that set about such a heinous program. As to the players theres no running away. They took it all on board and its ultimately irrelevant as to the how and why only that they did and if you do it, you should get done.

and then they'd be painted as the hard done victims, poor "misunderstood Essendon!!! "... Reap as you sow Bombers

Jara, the more you listen and read of some of these supposed industry giants of the airwaves/print , the more you come to understand it's all powered by self interest and bullshlt The sideshows are almost as entertaining as the main event, especially until court 1 comes into frame. Ladies and gentlemen take your partners (sides) for Thymosin Waltz !

certainly trying to play games of some sort, but haven't they been all along !! Difference being both sides are now engaged.

How bizarre, how bizarre

only.....just a bit..... like a really big bit !!! Slobbo is a yes lackie...mouth for hire...and cheaply Hird has now become totally detached... probably Whelans fault !! and so it unravels !!!

So Gerard's seen the error of his meanderings off the straight and narrow ?? Havent see the show so thanks for updates people. I wonder if Hird will even see his way to that wonder "oh FCUK moment" of realisation !!

Only the lodgement appeared last minute. Fun and games afoot....like CAS " accidently " releasing the 34 names....... then redacting !!! funny funny !! Hird and Co are now the Hunted !!!

no....thats Tanya's job !!!

that was my understanding also

I as well.. Was given to understand there was a path for subpoenaing those concerned. Something along the lines of WADA would make application for a subpoena and CAS would refer it to the Supreme Court for such/or not. Leagal Beagles ??

lol