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MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8
beelzebub replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
I was actually referencing an earlier post...this one...http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38419-paul-roos-on-triple-m-at-135/?p=1092661 but thanks all the same -
Nearly forgot about this gem. Essendon nominate an Essendon supporting judge for CAS Panel choice This works on so many levels. Its just SOoooo Essendon in all its magnificence. The protocol for selecting panel members in these appeals is that each side nominates a candidate from a list of CAS arbiters. Then both supposedly agree on the Chair though in effect Essendon will really get but one choice. Now the Windy Hilliers are obviously concerned ( just dawning perhaps ) that many of these have no idea, nor care about AUssie Rules....only the WADA-Rules !! So they have sought to have someone from OZ appointed as their selection. On the surface that seems an understandable position .........until you look at it properly. The candidate, retired High Court Judge , Justice Ken Hayne is NOT a CAS listed Arbiter The candidate is a massive Essendon supporter. Am I suggesting Hayne cant think clearly and independently. Of course not but why on earth go out of your way TO select someone who IS an Essendon supporter. Thats plain foolish.. Its also clearly shows that that club have either no understanding of rules and procedures or simply follow in established ways and have utter contempt for them. EFC its simple, there is a list of ACCEPTED arbiters. . You get to choose ONE from that list. Thats it
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MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8
beelzebub replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
Dawes out....Geez...didnt see that coming !! -
MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8
beelzebub replied to Demonland's topic in Melbourne Demons
thats pretty awesome.. kinda need a really-like button -
Unlikely to get heard for about 5-6 months...under normal constraints. However there are provisions to expedite appeals if the powers that be so wish other than that..have no idea until its announced
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if youre married you know the answer to this..lol
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An aspect to this whole sordid affair is the amusement one can derive from observing how those staunch Windy Hilliers go about nay saying what must certainly to any other reasoned spectator loom as The Justice Train Cometh. A lot of the fluff and rhetoric espoused by the EFC apologists , to me, seems to go to only one point this being the ability to prove the chain of delivery and hence the absolute that TB4 was THE injected compound. The great red and black hope has it seemed always revolved about this constraint. They see it as a moral outrage that they be hanged when no 'proof' exists. Curious for mine is they dont really ever bother to go to far to argue against there ever having been a programmed regime of guinea=pigging their players with cocktails of this'n' that . No, it's all about, well you cant show me an invoice that says TB4 !! Do they deny pushing an envelope ? Doesnt seem like it , they almost boast. Do they deny they enjoyed an advantage? Again..."gee our boys look solid eh!! " Were shady types of nefarious kinds involved with purloining these'substances" ? Oh my wordy wordy yes. This lot of deranged fanatical kool -aiders arent really denying that anything wrong happened only that those that would have them accountable cant produce the smoking gun.There's little or no remorse amongst the lot of them in fact the opposite , a daring, skiting ridicule of anyone suggesting that what happened, happened. Much effort is taken by the Hird-Herd to discredit the evidence as it exists. "Circumstantial evidence" is not sufficient they say. Strangely almost to a one, none of them actually deny it is a form of evidence though. Circumstantial: "of or pertaining to an event, a circumstance" Again I return to this idea that to them its not about what did or didnt happen , they seem to care less. It's about everything hinging upon showing TB4 existed at the club. It reminds me of that question. If a tree falls in the woods and no-one is there , did it make a sound ? To which the answer of course is yes. What the questioner wanted you to 'hear' was ...did anyone hear it as though thats the same. Its the inability to comprehend clearly that denotes the rabid Essendon apologist. Those that can see the forest for the trees and indeed are capable of reasoned deductions and who still barrack for Essendon must feel great shame, not just for the acts of their club but for the stupidity of many of their fellow supporters. Doyle wrote Sherlock's logistical announcements and a favourite of mine is 'Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth.' The apologists would have you believe that as no unequivocal document exists ( still..or does it ? ) that therefor it never occurred i.e the supply of TB4 To which the obvious question then is. If not TB4 , what, and show that IT indeed was sought, sourced and used because in the absence of any circumstantial evidence to support that assertion its highly unlikely that that was the case. Its ironical to me that its this idea of an absence of 'proof' that is the keystone to the self style affront emanating from north of town as there is an entire absence of logic to what they counter. And still, its never been about ' we never did it" Ive never come across one Essendon supporter who wold have me believe it never happened only that in their minds how can anyone be sure just 'what" I find that incredulousness disturbing.
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yep...time to move on folks...doesnt matter what any other team may or may not get .. We just need to concentrate on developing.. The PP does exist in a fashion...its called "weighting" when the AFL decides FA compo....The AFL like this..as there are no rules, no real ones.... thats the AFL way hey !!
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we knew this but I think it's only now occurring to the great unwashed !
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The next time Hird and Co look out of their windows they will be staring down their worst nightmare !! THE WADA AMADA !!
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lets just say hes a bit passionate about the cause in general
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Its probably only just starting to dawn upon a lot of people as to how serious a case this is. This now carries WADA's #1 priority . They arent mucking around, well , they never were , it was only our lame system of dealing with things that mucked anyone arond. As it goes...TISM. WADA are pushing for absolute neutral ground for CAS to hear this. They will in all likelihood be granted exactly that and have it heard in Lausanne. . Any one that gets called can do so via video if need be, especially those that might not normally even be allowed into Switzerland !! CAS wont muck around either. They without doubt will pick very experienced arbiters ( one already ) and this Appeal will be given the time and space its due to arrive at a fair and reasoned outcome. WADA arent stuffing around either having convinced Rich Young to go into bat for them. Heres the guy that wrote the book . Hes the guy that takes down the big ones. He would be the very last person you would want to see opposite you in these cases. If I were an Essendon player Id be very, very worried. If I was Hird or Little .....but then Im not and never could be...they will get theres in due course. If I were Jobe Watson Id just hand back my Charlie with a sincere apology. If I were Tim Watson Id just shut the fcuk up for ever more ( do the world a favour ) I still want to see a Royal Commission. Its the only way that the likes of Vlad and Ando can be brought to answer for events they are partly responsible for. Its the only way the likes of Gill the Dill can be made to explain the way the League have corruptly acted in all of this.It would also have the necessary powers to call ANYONE and theres a few who are flying under the radar currently that shouldnt be. This whole thing needs sorting...not just the Bombers debacle.
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yes that bus has left......too bad !!
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exactomundo !! they cant just kick it to the gutter ....bad luck Eddie.
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Then again Robbiefrom13.. A rebirthed Bombers will struggle for many years. They would be a permanent reminder to all....just what happens to those that err...Myself, I dont mind that.
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Fresh supplies of brown corduroys to Windy Hill me thinks........ Rich Young to lead the case for WADA against Essendon who's Rich Young ? well.... from the australian "The lawyer who brought down notorious drug cheats Marion Jones, Floyd Landis and Lance Armstrong will present the World Anti-Doping Agency’s case against 34 current and former footballers accused of taking a banned peptide. " "Richard Young, a US-based anti-doping expert who helped draft the original World Anti-Doping Code, has agreed to prosecute the case against Essendon to be heard before the International Court of Arbitration for Sport."
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yes very much I read I
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essendons veto is compromised though.. in the end CAS will appoint whom it wants as the chair,
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does raise an interesting aspect to it doesnt it...two strikes...oops !!
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Actually 2014 I probably am like yourself expecting Essendon to come unstuck not in the end through anything other than running out of money Dare I say for the good of its members and the league in general the EFC as it exists must die. Like a Phoenix a new Windy Hill Bombers may arise and be most welcome....just leave the fwits at the door !!
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that would be true. However unless its changed I thought EFC were bankrolling the lads. yes/no Still be up to their representative though as you say. Lets be honest here.....its not going to mater one zac who they choose........is it....lol
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Those silly lads....they really ought not have plssed WADA off !!
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what ever it takes !!!
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there will never be a priority pick. close thread
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If Essendon cant/dont want to pick, one will be picked for them. Essendon have no veto. CAS do