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restraint of trade there is clearly a reason MM hasnt come to terms with anything suitable for 2012. Thats his OUT. R57 ..care to illustrate what part(s) of the contract your privy to ?

Its the very professionalism that MM install into his charges ( players and panel) that is the attraction of getting him. Nothing going on wil really have anybearing what soever.to the Filth . The media want some nibbles and if able , and better, blood. Theyre be none coming. Too slick an outfit. . Come Mad monday (CW's) then all bets are off.

One would HOPE much changes in 5 years. Just a hypothetical. MM comes to Melb. Id expect 2012 to become seriously competitive, but not a force 2013. Starts ramping up top 4 ..playing deeper into finals 2014 PF and poss GF 2015 Flag 2016 Flag All very upbeat I concede but theres method and lineage. Why would you want to get half way then stuff around re-signing someone or going through what Collingwood is. Id consider 5 years with options to be the sound and intelligent way forward....on the proviso we get the right man in first place. lets not dick around......anymore

If person Fred ..swtiches from Utility A to Utility B. Then B pays EW a fee. Simple as that

Yep . Ip board working fine

id get the app.. Dont actually find posting that hard on the phone ( iphone) but an app would make easier id imagine Not likely to get a tablet of any sort soon . So the phones fine for me.

100% agree Must become masters of our destiny. We must seek the very best we can...but its going to have to be the very best we can get for 2012 and on. We cant put ourselves into limbo ( though some may argue its our permanent state anyway ) just to accomodate him or him etc. Lets make something happen...not try..DO !!

Well Eddie is in his usual 'spin' damage control mode . Nothing's changed for now But really what else is he likely to say. Even he knows the writings on the wall. Fair enough theyve all got a focus currently on the finals and another tilt at the flag....lucky buggers. Theres a very good reason teres been no announcement of an agreement on a new role for Mick , there simply isnt one. How does he go from Hero to Zero and stay relevant ? He doesnt, not at Collingwood anyway. Mick is very much his own man. He wont like the shackles applied. He'll find fresh fields. Maybe just down the road. Hope he doesnt get too confused finding a carpark next year

some newbies to light up the game..Dees by 66 !! what ?? I can be enthusisastic occasionally !! Its junk time...we'll probably lap it up

you do realise theres room for TWO sponsors ?? Thats how it rolls these days B)

Brilliant news... Well done MFC and those who brought this about. Seems we're no longer leppers about 75 desks worth

So is BOM the co sponsor with EW ? still ?

Mick Malthouse wont be at Collingwood in 2012 Well Sheahan puts it out there, as is his way and his job , but theres no mucking around here, apparently..He's gone. Its all hush hush of course , so dont you go telling anyone or Eddie will get narky !! Blind Freddie , let alone Eddie could have told anyone that Mick simply wasnt going to exist in anyones shadow, nor should he. .The whole contrived circumstance of the rise of Sir Bucks and Micks riding off intothe sunset to his other office all came unstuck ironically with success...and likely more success. Whats that about cant have your cake and eay it too ?..So hes off ! So I wonder where hes going ? ..... I wonder

So the same Lyon was responsible therefore in some large way for Sydneys Premiership and nearly one for StKilda !!! Yay, lets get 'im !!

fwiw..I still rate Laidley. But youd be a nong not to take Lyon or Mick if either were available ....or poachable

The Million dollar question is just how much money Eddie is prepared to come up with to ensure Mick doesnt wander in 2012 ? The reason Mick and Eddie cant really agree on a particular role for 2012 is that is all reality there isnt one that would satisfy all parties, especially Mick. . He wont want to be overseeing anything thats essentially a figment of the imagination, i.e a lame duck exercise. Conversely Buckley doesnt want Malthouse hanging around looking over his shoulder either. Here we have 3 Alpha males ...all with very very big egos. Only thing for certain is neither Eddie nor Bucks is going anywhere soon. Eddie doesnt want MM faliing into emeny hands, well not any earlier than can be helped. So all Eddie can really do dois throqw a few fists full of dollars Mickeys way and allow him to sit out a year and do what ever he likes in the media.. In Eddies mind this might cement the hallowed trifecta of results. So what are informal talks really ? Has Eades people made a call to Eddies people ? ..how about a coffee ?? . No foul no harm etc. You can bet Eades people are on the blower to anyone who'll pick up the phone. Keep in mind this is the silly end of the season

The MFC is going to resemble Flinders St a little come seasons end B)

Not sure where others put that but mucking around with sceanrios I cant really see them getting beyond week 2 of the finals..if they last that long.. Id have them in reality as either 7th or 8th. Inuires are going to jurt them now. They get no second dibs once finals start. So Ross...when can you start ?? lol

With respect DA youve all but outlined the reasons yourself. The Saints were well and truly in their Window. The priority then is to maintain a awell olied and honed outfit. To keep the machine primed. There no urgency to bring in new players unless they themsleves have put their selction beyond the question. When youre where they were you migh ttop up..and nudge a bit.. but blood for the sake of it ?? Nupp. They nearly got the silver wear...We in mean time have been fiddle-farting !! Different kettle of fish entirely.

Theres a wealth of knowledge we lack isnt there. . Agree..Mickey or Ross...fine by me. What would move Neeld to leave the filth though ..other than for a #1 gig ? just asking

I wouldnt read too much into it. If theyve locked up one sponsor...well theyre not going anywhere are they. Theyre most likely trying to cement in place a partner co sponsor and when this is a done deal then they candisplay our NEW jumpers to all and sundry. In mean time we have two valid sponsors and some professional respect is being afforded them.

With regard to Mickey the most logical path for him ( imho ) is that he'll agree to disagree with Collingwood. . Eddie will agree to pay him his 1M to effectively sit out of footy ( coaching ) for 2012. He'll probably go and do what ever 'guest' jobs he can find ( wont be hard ) in the media. He'll take up the reigns somewhere in 2013. Once Mickey loses the top job at the Filth he'll want nothing to do with the club really.. Hell only only be rucking antlers with Bucks otherwise. He may move on in 2012..but Eddie will be at pains to keep him out of our ( or others ) grasp for the interim. Keep in mind Eade will be in Informal talks with anyone who'll listen to him. Hes the least appealing of the unemployed whos still making a run for a #1 guernsey.

This coaching panel... committee...cal it what you like. has but one purpose. To secure the best "Experienced" front line Senior coach we can entice, poach, steal or abduct...Thats is. Once htis person is secured HE will set about building his band of of merry assistants. He will simply get his preferences ratified or not by the club. A salient point amusingly missed by Sheahan is we arent looking at or dealing with "unknown quantitites" Whilst we may not be privy to the ins and outs of their absolute methods it is essentially the 'results' column we're dealing with. All else will work its way out. We dont need a bunch of Coach's arbiters to tel lus whether the main choices can coach.This is where youd go if looking at the second stringers, but we arent. Ill put it out there again.. this club isnt capable of disecting and wholy understanding whether a Da Vinci knows what hes doing, only of observing what he does and wanting to covet it.

Lets just suppose for a moment ( well we're entitled to some happy happy dreaming delusionary moments arent we ) that Lyon , the Ross, not the Garry ( lol ) comes to town. What might thi sactually mean. One can only assume that a 5 yr deal , as purported, means two things. 1) Nothing is going to happen overnight and 2) when it does start to happen he'll hopefully be guiding us through some successful times. it wont be all fly by night hit and miss. With RL would come a new( ish) band of merry assistants. As stand-in Viney isnt actually from the assistants inner sanctum, he'll remain and most likely reassume a pivotal role of some description. Ross will mould his team in his likeness....thats the coaching side. Then we come to the list. If the FD dept got rightfully edgy upon learning Ross was coming to town, what of the players. I can see 3 things happening here. One group of players will gladly wring their hands with excitement and expectation., things are about to happen, and then ramp up. A second lot will be starting to rue some half baked efforts over the recent years as the searing torch of scrutiny befalls them.Some are bound to get burnt.. Some might seek 'fresher fields" at trade , some might reflect upon their time left and get down to work, real work. and 3) Time to trim the carcass. Ross will have his own view ( as indeed will any new coach ) as to what sort of team , and by that its makeup, is needed to compete and succeed. He evaluate the team into 2 lists.. Keepers.......and 'others". We wont be seeing the 'others' at Melbourne in 2012 Having let some'others' go...its ...Shopping Time !! In recent times weve had the Rev. He took his band of merry disciples up the mountain and back , never to climb again. If Neale was the Rev, then Dean was the Teacher. He taught his lessons and and got many through a primary football education but was found out of depth trying to matriculate his charges. Whos next..Lyon the Fearless ? His time has been honed at the hands of Walls, Parkin, Pagan and Roos. His H & A record currently runs at above...thats ABOVE 63%. Im not sure if anyone who barracks for Melbourne can truly comprehend that figure. He's won, nearly 2/3 of his games. You dont do that by accident !! Wed be crazy not to try very hard to get this bloke.

Less enjoyable ? than what? the rubbish we often currently see ? Weve got a little ways to go before we can execute the 'control' game StKilda utilise.. So you might be in for some real treats of games til then !! Are you actually privy to what transpired between Ball and Lyon ? Iimagine something did..but what ? it might be something he rues..but who knows. Whats value for money.. A premiership ? thatd do me