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I saw a poster on bomberblit write something along the lines of "if all our players have hit a wall because of the 12 month ban how come it's not affecting Hibberd"

I think we're going about this the wrong way trying to find a ruck replacement. let's just take out everyone else's ruckman.

No but i hate them less than hawthorn and their supporters aren't as arrogant.

I hope its a bumper crop and hawthorn finish last.

Sorry for being a bit off topic but did anyone see that chick get a 4 stroke penalty for putting her ball down about a centremetre away from where she marked it? 2 strokes for moving it incorrectly 2 more strokes for writing the wrong score down because she didn't know she had been penalised the original 2 strokes in the first place. Unbelievavble. She still made it to a play off hole but lost that.

If you're worried about caller ID just borrow someone else's phone from under the bridge. Those blokes seem to keep them charged better than I can.

Gysberts played his first game in the guts against Geelong in their prime and went toe to toe with Abblett. His debut game was every bit as good as Olivers. We are doing things much differently now. Oliver will be a star. Taylor would never have taken Gysberts but it doesn't change the first game facts.

I feel for bitter but optimistic's pecker if we do. The Anthony William Watson McDonald-Tipungwut reminds me of Wonnamuri.

The heat is completely disproportionate. Hird the fall guy. Bomber Thompson a more experienced administrator and the man who got the crooks to the club somehow escapes the heat. I could go on but that is the blindingly obvious example.

Hird will cop heat here for his responsibility over this debacle. Rightly so, but probably disproportionately for mine. i won't derail this thread and will start another thread in the next week or so on the General Board but Demetriou has a stench about him. Not just in this drugepisode but every business venture he has touched since.

I went to moomba and enjoyed it. My immediate concerns and thoughts though are about wikleaks and Julian Assange. If Bitter but Optimistic was lockedup up in the Ecuadorian embassy i would buy shares in tissues

I'll be doing the same when I come across them. A bit like how I don't stop at traffic lights if I lived in or spent a lot of time in the suburb before they were there. It hasn't failed me yet.

I'm glad I'm not under that scutiny. I,ve ingested some late night souvlaki's that have left me wondering.

Give me one flag to watch with my dad and sister who I have gone with every single week since before Jim Stynes ran over the mark. Just one and I will be happy. My daughter now comes with us.

I don't normally post about soccer but thought I'd see if this had been mentioned. It seems to me like sacking Norm Smith except worse. If Goodwin wins us a premiership I want a statue of him at the G and a liscence for him to coach as long as he likes.

In a thread impossible to derail, can I possibly try and derail this one? I have written a thread on drinking in the General Board. Would appreciate comments. $cully, Trump and Hitler were / are teetotaler's.

I'm not going to derail this thread so will only comment on this once and won't respond. i am not privy to the structure of the Essendon football club. But I doubt very much Hird, a coach who had no previous coaching experience was the head of every department and responsible for all their practises within the club. Hird claims he agreed to a cutting edge programme within the rules. All the players signed a waiver that clearly stated the programme must be within WADA rules and not detrimental to any players health. Hird could have handled it better but I truly think he his a pawn that the AFL needed to hang everything on. Particularly, after he wouldn't cop the slap on the wrist they were offering. The Government at the time were calling it "the blackest day in Australian sport" well before there was any evidence. The AFL stood side by side with the Government in the press conference. At that stage it was political. Someone was always going to hang. Essendon could have cheated much more than any of us know. There are no records so how can we tell? The fact they have no records cannot be Hird's fault alone. Every piece of electronically stored and transferred data has a record. The fact this cannot be found suggests to me that it is much bigger than just being hidden on James Hird's laptop. This to me is the key. Again without being privy to the structures within the club I doubt Goodwin is responsible to oversee the integrity of Missions work at Melbourne. The fact Bomber Thompson got these people to the club while director of coaching and yet seems unscathed suggests to me Hird is a scapegoat. There are so still so many questions and yet so little answers I just think Hird is the fall guy.

I still think Hird is a scapegoat (not blame free) in this sorry saga but he has handled it the worst of any involved. Regardless he needs to move on with his life and I wish him and family all the best.

The draft has been like the finals for the dees. I have looked forward to it every year for almost a decade. We normally have a top pick. This year we didn't and all of a sudden we land Jordan Lewis.

The best deals we have had with include recruiting peter jackson Not taking sheedy whelan dealing with Hird

There was a lot to like about Joel Smith yesterday but... He kicks like Cameron Bruce used to. Lots of helicopters and leg breaks. No drop punts.

Hopefully 3 time premiership player Jack Viney does an apprenticeship somewhere else before he continues the chain and leads us to further glory.

Not sure why everyone is so critical of Freo / Ross Lyon. If Sylvia just has a good pre-season they will be alright.

Spot on.

Great call nutbean. At the time I was wondering how the call could possibly be overturned by the 3rd umpire. Which it couldn't be. But you are spot on that it could affect the players decision making as well.