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The umpires don't so much as umpire, as blow the whistle and point left or right. (@17.57, unrewarded Dee taclle).
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See that Simon, Ben Brown is our full forward.
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ANB ridden into the ground = NFK.
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Hand tackling should be banned, inherently dangerous. Not envisaged in rules.
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BBB a premiership hero, is one of our top full forwards of the last 60 years.
1. Neitz
2. Bennett
3. Jakovich
4. Dillon
5. Brown
6. Robertson
7. Parke
If Melbourne is seriously contending this year the selection committee will need to swallow their pride and get him back in the team.
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On 6/24/2023 at 12:45 PM, 640MD said:
Just a point
if Rohan had been a Melb player
how many weeks would he have received
duty of care should apply no matter that you are on the same side
concussion in 10 years time will not care who hit Cameron
high , reckless , feet off the ground , player off for two weeks
That is a very good point. At the very least, the intention of the Geelong player is to make heavy contact. So he has responsibility or duty of care for what follows.
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Ron Barassi didn't break through as a gun player until a role was invented for him... that being ruck-rover. This suggestion may be howled down etc but why not play Grundy as a mid/ruck-rover? He could tag-team with Gawn then. The competition may never look the same.
When one of these players gets tired they could rest in the back pocket, a la Ted Lees. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-melbourne-demons--ted-lees
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9 hours ago, Traja Dee said:
Thanks so much for sharing; it brought back so many memories.
Things I enjoyed seeing included some of my favorite childhood players: Robbie F, Gerard Healy, Alan Jarrott, Brian Wilson, Alan Johnson, Stephen Icke, Kelly O’Donnell, Steven Smith, Rohan Connolly
I have to admit to spending 10 minutes thinking that 33 was Greg Healy. Of course, being 1983, it was Tony Elshaug, who ended up at Essendon. Other players who changed clubs include Gerard Healy and Glen McLean
It was fun to see the MCG with the old Southern Stand with the wooden benches, the standing room behind the city goal and Vic Police as security.
I don’t remember that game but I do remember a great win later in the season against the fancied Hawks in the sun at Princes Park, despite Steven Smith getting king hit and knocked out cold in the first quarter (no prizes for guessing the culprit). That win against Hawthorn put us in the top 5 for the first time in my life. Sadly, we fell away from the very next round.
My favorite memory from this video was see Doug Haywood interview Robbie in the rooms after the game. Robbie seemed so formal compared to modern players. It made me reflect on what it would have been like to be coached by Ron Barrassi; I can imagine that even supremely talented, conscientious and loyal players like Robbie would have been under the thumb.
Thanks for sharing.
'Rohan' Connolly, lol... is that his moniker a la Nathan/Gary Lyon?
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15 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:
The way we play the majority of the time fails to excite, which imo contributes to our supporters either not wanting to rock up and/or doesn't give our supporters much to cheer about.
Kosi is about the only excitable player on our list but he's been a shadow of himself for the best part of a month.
We have nobody else that excites. Not even Trac. Forward of centre, he's about as reliable as a chocolate teapot when it comes to kicking goals in general play and set-shots.
Against better sides, our inability to kick goals from great opportunities and looks forward has been atrocious for two years. Two years. Even in the wet last night, we had so many opportunities going forward that we just waste.
When will we actually address this? They talk about method and that the club have worked on that over summer. But it's clear to me it's a personnel thing more than anything. Miskicks, kicks straight up in the air, kicks to the advantage of a defender. It all comes down to the individual and we are stocked full of players who consistently display poor ball use. It doesn't change..
One quick fix for the rest of the year imo is to move Salem to a half forward/centre forward mid role. Take out one of Sparrow, Jordan or even ANB. Give Spargs ANB's role for a few weeks and sacrifice a bit of that run with a ball use.
One of Bowey or Salem need to play forward centre. We just cannot hit targets going inside 50 and let me tell you, they are there. Always.
I'm just completely vanilla mids in Jordan and Sparrow. We need other types in there.
And we are desperate for a mature aged key position forward who knows where to lead, when to leave space and can contest hard.
If you watch the other games on a kayo binge weekend this little melodrama repeats itself holus-bolus. The main problem is the shape of the football. Of course, a good full forward would be helpful.
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Stunk up badly at the selection table, anomalies abound. BBB having an excellent start to the season then relegated to Casey, can't get back in despite us having an average forward line. Tomlinson, breakout game v Collingwood... surely "no change" is the applicable team-first messaging. Petty, straight back in, despite the erstwhile practice of easing injured players back ...through Casey. Can't take any of it too seriously when punters preside over selections. Demons, gamble responsibly.
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I remember in the good-old, bad-old days we had Melbourne - Masters of the MCG and Melbourne Greatest Ever Exponents of Perfection Football displayed across the northern and southern stands in perpetuity. There was a third one l have forgotten.
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Amazing that umpire Marais Erasmus did not award a 50 metre penalty against Patrick Cummins for showing obvious dissent in last ball before lunch.
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18 hours ago, jnrmac said:
Percentage doesn't matter in finals.
He means ladder position/ home v interstate finals...
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10 minutes ago, bush demon said:
Reminiscent of David Neitz's hit on a Hawthorn player, circa 2004.
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37 minutes ago, TopCorner said:
Tough cookie that Hunter
Reminiscent of David Neitz's hit on a Hawthorn player, circa 2004.
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1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:
Had to wade through 20 pages on bf which was mainly bs about Collingwood, their changes and how to stop DeGoey going overseas and getting into more strife. Have omitted all that rubbish.
Anyone would think they didn’t have a game coming up. I’ve left out all the unsavoury comments about Oliver.
- Carlton aren’t a great overlap side. They kept kicking straight to melbs zone defence. I think we are much better at providing run and overlap, and can exploit the dees using this
- Coxzilla to put on a clinic in a massive game at the G. Loves the big occasion in front of the parents at the G does big Coxy!
- So... Did Viney get looked at by the MRP or nah?
- The key as always v Melbourne is to keep May and Lever busy and avoid kicking down the line to them
- The Dees forward line is completely dysfunctional. Our defensive system should make a mess of them.
- This is a danger game for us, if Melbourne bring their best.
- The game before the mid season is always a challenge - feels like this looms as a danger game for me with players thinking about the week off. I'm sure Fly and the coaches will manage expectations within the playing group but some real challenges around selection this week
- It’s a bit unsettling as the past few years we’ve been the underdogs against this lot but this time we’ll be clear favs. They couldnt have been less impressive friday night but I’ve already seen in the media it’s their “mid year GF”. Seriously can these minnow clubs give us a rest from their manufactured pump up games
- I think it was clear we weren’t running on all cylinders the past 2 weeks whether that was intentional or not. Time to get the “All duck and no dinner” anger back out again
- Would be nice to make it harder for them to make top 4 as well, if we are top 2, the more interstate sides that finish top 4 the better
- I don’t think we’ll select a side to match Melbournes forwardline. More likely we’ll select our best back 7 and force Melbourne to adapt to that. If they go in undersized they’ll struggle with any long ball in the fifty.
- Gawn, Oliver & Petracca had the ball on a string last time we played them, and we still beat them. Not too worried about this game, Melbourne are our bunnies
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Be afraid everyone, Grundy has asked for the first bounce
- Woohoo! First clearance to the Magpies
- Might forget who he plays for and tap it straight to Pendles
- Irrespective of the Ins and Outs this week, based on recent form and Melbourne's woeful performance last week, we should easily account for the Demons.
- Yeah, I watched bits of that game and both sides were garbage. Melbourne were only slightly better than Carlton.
- Melbourne will be all huff and puff for the first 10 minutes and then we'll just smash them
- Pies to once again, make Lever and May redundant as we always do. Miochek to kick 4. Pies by 17.
- Lippa is a good in, but let's not build him up to be Chris Judd.
- Have no idea on the ins, only thing I know definitely is that I can't wait to beat Melbourne.
- Up there in my top three most despised clubs predominately due to their supporters!
My Favourite, sort of:
- I tipped Melbourne by 20pts in my Tipping
This has been the most ungracious lot of opp comments I have come across since Essendon. Not one ounce of respect. Anyone would think they are the recent premiers! I so desperately want us to beat them. Wipe the smile off their sneering faces.
Importantly we need to break the string of losses vs them before we meet them in the finals. Get a bit of the psychological edge back.
Reckon, we have this!! Dees by a heart-stopping 9 th
Their loss record aginst us in finals since pre-war is almost perfect.
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19 minutes ago, DubDee said:
Magnificent recruitment and development from the club. Pick 19 is a steal.
Jacob looks a great prospect. And critically he has that insane will to compete and win. That celebration after his goal was so good. He wants this bad and he is as tough as nails.
Watch Collingwood try to "ginger up" the new boy. I think he has a bit of the Neil Balmes about him...
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21 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:
Agree with most of that except for the Sydney bit.
Sydney are right in the thick of the top 8 action and may need to beat us in the last game to make finals.
And if they are out of the race, it will likely be Buddy’s farewell game and emotions will be very high at the SCG. Therefore I expect it to be a very tough assignment.
Buddy is moving around ATM like Talos from Jason and the Argonauts..
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Oscar Baker
Jeremy Howe
Luke Jackson
Sam Weidemann
Jayden Hunt
Sam Frost
Toby Bedford
Jessie Hogan
Brayden Preuss
Have l missed anyone?
It is quite a list.
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10 minutes ago, kev martin said:
Collingwood seem to want to choose when they "go" or not. If they play that kind of arrogant game plan, we will easily beat them. Especially without De Goey effecting the midfield battle.
I expect them to be "going", and we have to be "going" with them. If they get a good lead we will be done. This year we are better at playing for the 4 quarters. We've lost the capacity to put several goals on in short periods regularly (can't rely on a good burst) .
If we sustain our pressure, effort and complete the fundamentals well for the 4 quarters, then we go a long way to beating them.
My question is, can the Woods play a hard fought 4 quarter game, as I think we can?
Go Dees
They just have to be unpicked, like we were. They get overlappers sprinting hard from concealed rear formations as soon as they have a ball-winner. From that set-up it is guard to stop them. We need to counter their ploy with our own Oliver's army-style formation:
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7 hours ago, Brownie said:
There seems to be a lot more selfishness in the forward 50 as well.
I was stunned at Frittas snap goal when Chandler was standing all by himself in the goal square last night.
I was just waiting and waiting for someone to say this. It was a seriously selfish moment, papered over by the fact that we won the '21 premiership and the correct dribbling of the ball. If he had missed that goal it would have been a very bad look. Still, saying all this Fritta is a serious class act. Now, onwards to Kysiah and his penchant for spoiling JVR and Gawny's marking attempts.
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Just now, Dee Zephyr said:
JDG in trouble ?
Gone.
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NON-MFC: Rd 17 2023
in Melbourne Demons
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Essingdon won't bea Geelong at Geelong, and they won't beat Collingwood. There's two.