bush demon

Probably now timely to have an external review of the AFL'S footballing acts,  and driving knees into a player's back.

The bottom line out of all this may well be that any medium or smaller club (not under-written by head-office) by definition has a bad culture. 

1 hour ago, Superunknown said:

Gee the Schwartz interview was interesting particularly his take on the potential outcome of other matters the club is currently dealing with 

I hope they don't bring up Brian Dixon being dropped from the 1957? Grand Final team. That would truly be explosive.

On 25/08/2024 at 16:23, Lexinator said:

Life on Earth is expected to die in 1.3 billion years. Better win one before then.

If you are referring to the collision with Andromeda, that's about 5B. years.

Eery parallels with the RDB departure, similar age, similar profile. Club had recently won a premiership. Looking to expand the brand.  Walked in to a club gathering one day (acc. to Red Fox) and didn't like the vibe.  Went to Carlton.

5 minutes ago, OhMyDees said:

Trac should have said he wanted to play for Carlton or Collingwood for family reasons. 

Trac said he wanted to go to Collingwood because they kneed him very badly.

On 19/08/2024 at 15:43, Demonland said:

 

Not sure if we have ever had  another  28 yo premiership champion - of similar heritage seeking to walk out in the dead of night. Plus ca change. 

Anyone who lived through Melbourne's first decade of gloom would place Hassa Mann right up in their top five. Schwarz had top 1-2 in his hands until fate intervened.  Robbie Flower got his due recognition in State games and in the '87 finals series - a true sporting genius. But Ronald Dale was the driving force of a sustained period of greatness, making him  number 1.

44 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

AFL, you are supposed to be running the competition, you are not the commentariat.

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fritsch's most noticeable grand final goals came from leading up at the footy, jumping over opponents or on the back of great pressure from the likes of Kossie and Spargo.

It's great there were goal sneaks in 1963 or whenever those guys played but Fritsch has been dining out on the grand final for 3 years now. 

You are making my argument for me: re Kossie and Spargo. Fritsch is a finisher. And it's easy to kick a player/team when they are down.

On 05/08/2024 at 11:47, DeeSpencer said:

I’m not going to speculate on Oliver but the footy he’s currently serving up is horrendous.

Petracca, Pickett and ANB are better overall forwards than Fritsch. JVR should be soon. Heck I wouldn’t be surprised if Chandler finishes higher in the B+F.

We are playing with 17 on the field when one guy constantly tries to get out the back, never chases, tackles with no intent or technique so consistently gives away free kicks and can’t play in any other role. 

Getting out the back is a time-honoured profession. Fritsch got out the back in the 2021 GF and won us the premiership. Barry Vagg was a goal-sneak, Teddy Hopkins the same. You don't want these lightly-framed players getting exhausted racking up the K's and then being unable to perform their magic.

On 12/06/2024 at 11:09, Fork 'em said:

Correct.
I cannot remember a single player being knocked out and stretchered off after a hanger had been taken on them.

 

You just have to remember the cardinal football rule: always be second to the ball so you can take out the ball player with a big knee or hands in the back. Umpires look away when ball players suffer these Football Acts.

Harry Connick Jnr and Jack Viney.

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American magician Mat Franco, Jack Billings, MFC.

The state of lawlessness in the last five minutes of Collingwood v North was a site to behold. Shoving of players nowhere near the ball, Daicos red-hot in front of goals = not paid. Unwatchable. 

1 hour ago, gs77 said:

Oh good, Gerald feels there's enough of a pile on that it's safe for him to jump in too. It is Melbourne after all, not a big club, so he won't get blowback from AFL HQ. Does he really want to bring out the "duty of care" card when this was absent from several incidents of which we've been on the receiving end in recent years? Kicking in danger breaking players hands, low pushes in back tearing players hamstrings, feigning smothers to end a player's career?

It's not like in this case a player just waved a doctor away after an obvious head clash, or a club ignored footage of a head clash and didn't follow up with a concussion test, or one of many other instances we've seen of a club's failure to exercise duty of care.  We have doctors assessing likely broken ribs and acting accordingly as per the symptoms, including ultimately subbing Trac and sending him to hospital well before the game was over.

It's all "AFL" sanctioned violence.  it gets patrons through the turnstiles, and pays the bills.

On 12/06/2024 at 22:37, Farmer said:

The last few weeks have triggered my memory of 1998 when we had a good team and ended up third .

in Round 12 we kicked 7 goals 4 to Geelong 22/9, loss by 95 points 

the following week we kicked 5.13 to 18.15 v StK.  , loss by 80 points 

both matches at the MCG, and after round 13 we had won 7 lost 6 

yet, we beat Adelaide in R1 of the Finals and Footscray in R2 with G Lyon kicking 10. We then lost to North in the Prelim. I recall the sense of hopelessness after the above losses. Reminds me of 2024!

Jefferance Farmer took an absolute speccy in front of goals in first minute of game then missed from dead in front. 

Makes sobering reading:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/as-a-long-suffering-fan-the-demons-dynasty-looks-over-before-it-began-20240611-p5jl0j.html?btis

Got a bit of a stench of '65 about it. 

Funny thing is l think it was the North loss in '65 that broke our back. And we play them next.

This is a really good discussion, but there are so many vested interests in maintaining "AFL", as a colosseum sport, and there are so many violent aspects to our code that the crowd just bays for. Two things have turned me right off the game. 1. Was the big hit l saw Daniel Bell take a few years back at Casey, the other was the premeditated flattening of Angus Brayshaw last year. Having said that, l don't condone either "bumps" such as Liam Ryan's which knocked Maynard rotten a week or so back. You just have to see how ingrained this ambivalence towards violence is when someone like Hamish Brayshaw forgives the backhander that wiped out his brother.  Because the teams are so even across the competition the niggle and the hit have become points of difference in close games. I just hope that tribunal members and AFL execs. who condone some of these barbaric aspects of our code are one day held personally liable through class actions etc.

11 hours ago, picket fence said:

Sorry mate, but IT IS A WAR, and one which we are losing!!

What punters don't realise is that the players are all mates flying under flags of convenience. The AFL distributes betting colours, otherwise known as non-clash strips, and then the supporters decorate the stadiums for the gambling industry.

Is it just me or is there a paucity of snow-related humour since the Coodabeens went the way of The Kevin Dennis Football show?

On 09/04/2024 at 21:15, Left Foot Snap said:

Is that from that play? Title alludes me.

The Original:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Heywood

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Poor comment?? Very fair unless you think Goody will win another 5 !!

Goodwin now has a place in Demon history with the '21 flag. When Smith started (coaching) the Dee's had already won four in the preceding ten years. Too many people quick to tear a man down.

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

NORM SMITH Coached the DEES TO 6 PREMIERSHIPS and got every ounce of talent out of all players. You cannot even contemplate a comparison to Simon Goodwin, who FLUKED a premiership and has wasted the last 3 years of what has been recognised as a Crack list!!

That's a poor comment. Norm had his own failures before he got MFC to glory.