daisycutter

rubbish, bluey the south east tunnel will be part of the community recreational aspect of the mfc proposal to be shared by the mfc and the community. if you do your homework you will see that the council has long had a tunnel there in their community strategic plan for the area.

those are legitimate concerns, od. hence the discussion of potential leverage re aami's emerging strategic position

know all that. waverley (+casey) is fine as an interim and an improvement. just not optimal longer term even if we go to caulfield we will still have a role for casey, but it won't be critical

firstly i see the following: Caulfield > Waverley > Current The club (and the press) also have said that they see a waverley move as an interim move goschs paddock has suddenly become a bargaining asset with collingwood and tennis australia (incl vic gov) being strategically interested (possibly richmond too). Therefore, my concern is that if we give up aami without any caulfield guarantees we could be stranded at waverley. I say could be, because there may in fact be some guarantees re caulfield that are close to being announced, but we are just in the dark at this stage. i don't see waverley as a long term solution for exactly the same reasons as hawthorn did, and these have been discussed many times here (expansion ability, 2 ovals, closed training, aflw, vfl, vflw etc) step warily

the dilemna waverley is a step forward from what we have now, but it doesn't satisfy all our needs waverley is also a step backwards in strengthening our quest for caulfield which could satisfy more of our needs

he was (is?) a very good and talented footballer that's the best i can say for him. i never really warmed to him personally like i do for most of our boys

ambulance and family day crowd can use the existing drive-through tunnel on the mid west side new tunnel only needs to cater for low pedestrian numbers and a golf cart/trailer facility that the club now uses to move stuff around. All other larger vehicles can be driven through existing western tunnel stop trying to grandiose the requirements of a new south-east tunnel

aside from all that, the filth has had a need for a 2nd oval to better accommodate aflw,vfl and vflw close to their current location. currently they are quite restricted regarding expansion. same requirements with richmond but so far not much said publicly by them

just hope fritta doesn't get charged by the cops with participating in an affray 🫨

sad to see you go, maysie things won't seem the same without our backline general

i know. I just queried the "everything under one roof" claim waverley has good and bad. our current situation is not very good. everyone's patience is running rather thin

thanks for the link. some really good facilities there. but it's not "everything under one roof". Remember we have to cater for more than just the seniors. As well as AFL there is AFLW, then VFL and VFLW both including listed players, and only "just" room for 1 oval. solves some problems, but nowhere near "everything". better than now? maybe. one problem concerns me is that if we give up aami, before we have a "guaranteed" caulfield go ahead, we could be left in a weaker bargaining position. lots of people want to get their hands on aami (filth, ferals and tennis)

all probably true i'm still hoping caulfied happens. might require a miracle the lack of any progress news is a bit worrying ☹️

plenty of room, outside the track, in the mfc-favoured south-east corner

od, there is already a drive-through tunnel on the mid west side not all construction equipment would fit through, but those that don't could be craned in and left inside for extended periods. plus, there is no building construction inside, just equipment for ovals and landscaping. no necessity for long (if any) access across the actual track. it all looks quite manageable without much interference to the race club

yep, three things missing/wrong from extremely biased report It's not just mfc who want a south-east pedestrian tunnel. the local council strategic plan has had such a tunnel in their planning before the mfc became interested suggestions of closing the track for 12 months are just laughable the statement of a pedestrian tunnel costing $10m is likewise laughable. This is not a "big build" project.

score? [please]

score?

much more than a possibility don't forget - AFL, AFLW, VFL, VFLW

would make an excellent demonlander 😉

only if ... the cfmeu is not contracted

Ever played a cricket game on the wattle park oval, mr fence?

the only talk of deakin was in relation to mr scopus, as deakin is a possible/likely buyer of their burwood campus, which they need to sell to finance their new caulfield race course campus. some here thought scopus might somehow be part of our delays

it would only be an interim move. if caulfield comes off it will be 2-3 year project to complete.

on the above map, the area between the highlighted deakin campus, to the left, and along elgar road opposite plc. It is part of deakin.