george_on_the_outer

Good thinking.....done!

I've pinned It's Time's table to the top of the board. When I or other mods see any updated data we will amend.

The AFL will introduce this system when Collingwood have no prospect of making the finals under the current system.

Could find himself as Head coach next year......

Enough has been said about this subject. Locked

As Pennant said, get on to the club ASAP. The cheer squad often has spare seats as not everyone can get to Perth easily. Great group to sit with as well, because the locals struggle with the rules of the game...

Looking at Chris25's picks above, we can now see why the MFC traded away the 2016 future 1st rounder to get a forward in Weidemann (196cm) Of those 42 players only 2 are taller, Todd Marshall (197, forward) and Tim English ( 203, ruck), with Harrison McCreadie (196, defender) equal height. Really, really smart thinking by the Recruiting team.

Rookies don't cost as much as a senior listed player. When the Club elevates a rookie they have worked out he actually can play football, and is worthy of further financial investment. Last year there were 70 picks made in the main draft. The next pick is in the rookie draft i.e pick 71. So by that stage the difference in quality is minimal. Nothing lost.

Has been sufficiently discussed. Locked

There are no winners or losers at Trade period.! The trades that get done have 2 parties involved and both are agreeable to make the deal. Who is the loser? Who is the winner? Neither.......today. The unknowns are whether these trades are ultimately successful on the playing field next year. IF O'Meara plays 22 games then Hawthorn are a winner. If he can't get on the park then they are a loser. Richmond found that out last year with Yarran. The real point of interest are those clubs that don't trade. Port Adelaide being the standout this year. Unable to offload 2 good players in Lobbe and Hartlett, when other teams are throwing around multiple draft picks in exchange for meagre offerings. Even their salaries are a negotiable item, but Port were unable to do it. Why weren't Port involved in the Gibbs trade instead of Adelaide solely? Bring on season 2017......so we can see the proof of the pudding.......

Well the AFL have paid $200M today rather than waiting 9 years and paying $30! Where does the $200M come from?.....from money that could have been distributed to the clubs. Would $10M to each club today have solved a lot of problems? Certainly would have. If they think they can reduce the annual payments to St.Kilda, Bulldogs, North and yes... Carlton & Essendon then they are fooling themselves. While the Medallion club seats are not available for those clubs to sell as upgraded seating/memberships, then no further income will come to them. That is why the Bulldogs sold out of ALL their higher grade memberships within days. They only have a few bays on level 1 to sell. And who would pay extra to sit on level 3? The other concern is that the AFL is not a stadium manager. To protect the surface, events which previously held at the stadium and conflicted with football, will now be refused. So less income. A very real possibility of less money to tenant clubs, and definitely no money to all the other clubs. Sound like a great way to waste $200M to me.

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1 player at pick 19 is not going to improve their situation one iota. But the reason for that pick is simply disgraceful, given our circumstances over the past 10 years, when we have been denied such largesse.

Richmond have just re-signed Maric despite only playing 3 games this year. They are looking to get rid of Vickery. Sort of gives you an idea of their assessment of Vickery's capabilities.

You were warned the thread would be locked if this petty squabbling continued. it now is.....

A lot of the Victorian clubs are no different than us, and longing for the past doesn't necessarily add anything to the operations of a football club in the 21st century. St.Kilda trying to move back to Moorabbin.....but at what cost? Collingwood no longer at Vic park. Richmond retain Punt road butwere gifted $12M by the federal government to upgrade. Hawthorn long left Glenferrie, now Waverley, but moving to Keysborough in the future. North still training on a substandard ground with training facilities provided again by government. Essendon at Tullamarine. Supporters will go to wherever the club is. The suburban supporter bases no longer exist, except for that of the Western Bulldogs. It is why they changed their name to not reflect a single suburb. Bentleigh club is owned by the MFC, but the pokies are tied to the location ( and numbers limit) within the council boundaries. As I understand if we were to sell, we would have to purchase somewhere else in the same council area before selling, to move the pokies licence. So you would need a current pub with no pokies, or a complete greenfield operation, with all the attendant objections from residents. Doing nothing, without spending a bucketload of cash on alternatives is probably the only viable option today.

Absolutely right....but their major problem is that because Tom Boyd has eaten up a huge amount of their salary cap, that they have to look for cheap replacements. That means either swapping players out or giving away picks. It's probably the major reason their name isn't mentioned when the more talented players are rumoured to be seeking a new home.

The Punt Road End aren't happy that someone noted GWS have won more finals in the past 20 years than Richmond.

Enough....

Dan Richardson, their football director was castigated for saying that Richmond couldn't rebuild, because the fans couldn't/wouldn't tolerate it. How true he was, and the emergence of the Board challenge at the Toiyges is living proof. That said, they did go down the path of importing good average players for a number of years to get themselves off the bottom quickly. Maric, Rance, Houli, Grigg, Hampson, Chaplin all did that job excellently, and they played finals. You will find those names in Little Goffys list of Richmonds best players. But then they stopped and went down the path of trying for the "big one". Trouble was they got burned when they couldn't attract anyone so they just kept going for second best ala Yarran. Why...because the fans wanted it. Apart from Yarran, with zero games to his name and Townsend (who?) I don't think they have traded for the past 2 years. And they gave away their 2nd round pick this year as part of the Yarran trade. So this year they have pick 6 and nothing else with which to rebuild. And their fans are all pressuring to bring in Prestia with his injuries, thinking a single player will lift them to glory. Unlike us who HAVE rebuilt, and as LG has noted, all their best players have been there since 2011. They are all ageing and have little currency in the trade market, since the fans again would not them trade Cotchin, Martin, Rance or Reiwoldt. The future is very very bleak for the Toiyges.

I've often wondered the same as Nasher. The opposition ruck won't grab it because he would be tackled immediately. Where does he hit it? To a contest where there are more opposition players? The scenario is only valid in the centre circle, but what we are seeing around the ground is teams nullifying ruck contests, through 3rd man up.

Gold Coast have 6 picks up to pick 27! And Prestia/O'Meara want out as well, which will surely yield further picks. They have delisted 4. Are they going to go the youth path completely, or will they need to trade in some experience as well, or both? Everyone is talking about who is available to bring in, but with this scenario the opportunity is who can be traded out to secure some of this excess of picks. I trust Todd, Jason and Josh to exploit these opportunities, like they did last year.