Redleg

Sounds like we want the Grundy trade done before the LJ one, so we can't be hassled over the LJ picks. If we give 27 for Grundy, does that mean we are currently without a pick?

A truly lovely man, the most skillful player I have seen in my 70 years, humble and modest and a great mate. Taken too soon, always missed by his family and friends. RIP. Robbie.

You have mixed up posts. Alpha 33 said he had a headache, not Demon Disciple. This misquoting is giving me a headache.

They will get picks for retired and delisted players. I think you only need to add 3 players and they are trading in players too.

The Dockers currently have every pick in my scenario except the Lobb pick. If they clear Lobb to the Dogs and give us that pick, with the others they already have, it would be an easy deal. They have apparently already offered us 13 and F1st and we have refused. In other words, they throw in North F2nd and North F3rd and maybe Acres F50 something and clear Lobb and give us the pick. If they were serious about Jacko and are worried about WCE, then do it now and it's done, all over, finished.

I haven't listened to one word of trade radio. It's my own silly idea, that might not be that silly, as it can be easily done by the Dockers, if they want to finish this trade right now. Would you do that deal if you were Tim Lamb? I would.

Go and lie down then after taking a few panadol.

We have backup rucks at Casey in Bell, Valentine and Smith etc, but would have no AFL backup to Gawn and Grundy. We could Rookie an experienced ruckman, until the son of you know who, that you don't want me to mention, is drafted and matures. However I am not saying clear Weid, only posting the rumour.

The bundling of 13 with North's F2nd ( say approx 21 ) will go a long way to getting us the first pick we want. Then Freo's F1st plus the Lobb pick and or the Acres pick, will do the same for the second pick we want. Or just give us all of those picks, plus the North F3rd and we will do the deals. We could easily end up with 2 picks inside 10. Then ask them to throw in Treacy and they have LJ. So we would get initially 13, North F2nd and F3rd, Freo F1st, Lobb pick and Acres pick F50 something. See how easy it is.

Time to get Treacy thrown into the LJ deal.

Yes he did.

Saints now rumoured to be gunning for him.

They can still bundle 13 with Lobb pick or Acres pick and improve it . They can also trade a player to us. Sounding like it will get done.

Lamb has stated categorically Harmes is staying, so we can all breathe again.

You are not the only one. I was thrilled we got him in the draft, as he slipped down the picks. Tall and talented mid.

So we take 13 and next years approx 13 for LJ and Tigers pay 12 and 19 this year for Taranto. Lachie Weller gets Freo 2. Oh yeah!

Thanks Sam.

Can't see it really, but I guess it depends on what WBD give us to take him. I would give nothing of any value. Why do you think he would play better at his third club? I see this as a salary dump like Bowes, who I also would be very happy to take on, if we could get Freo to pay some of his salary cap to help us get pick 7. Freo appear to have a struggle on their hands, to get us good enough picks for LJ, so helping us get Bowes, or at least pick 7, if they can get Bowes, will be a very good start. Given Gary Ablett Jnr and Danger are both praising Bowes, that gives me even more confidence in going after him.

So the issue might be semantics. Harmes might have spoken to Essendon, or his Manager might have spoken to Essendon, or his Manager may have had a meeting with Essendon, but Harmes has not had a Meeting with Essendon. Then again what is a meeting?

Please!

Lever has been worked out and we need to reinvent him.

28, not quick and poor culture. Wow! I hope not. Where is that key forward, unless we think we can draft one with the picks we are getting. There is one we could get with a pick in the 20's.

Well that would put a smile on my dial. However Harmes has been a good and versatile player for us.

Wow! A Dees supporting best 22 Premiership player possibly leaving, following on from Jayden and Jacko and also Bedford for more opportunities. Don’t think I have seen this many regulars leaving in one off season.

Very impressive. Well spoken, over all the facts and respectful to all.