Spin-it-to-Goodwin-it

Like getting a birdie or a whole in one on a Par 3-ish?

Sounds like pick 3 is the big fish This would be a freaking awesome outcome. On par for a fish ...future big one

Take this with a grain of salt, but I can't help wondering if there is a battle being played out for positioning in the draft, and the Dons and us might be jostling for the same player in the draft via the draft table. By offering up pick 25 we kind of have the upper hand over them with any other deals that they/we have brewing (ie. the Carslile - StKilda 2 for one pick 5 downgrade trade) and this might be contributing to the delay with the Melksham deal being confirmed. Why give up our hand so early in the piece if there are still other fishies still on the table? Not saying the Melksham deal won't get done, just that we are milking our position (pun kind of intended) for everything that we can get.

I suppose this trade need to be taken in context with the club's stated desire to bring some competitors/ toughness into the side - So its a trade that's relavent to what the team needs most come finals time. I lost count how certain un-named players failed to keep their head over the ball this year, so from this point of view we have just improved the list.

My thoughts exactly.

Sounds more like a Goodwin recruit than a Roos recruit to me. By the way, I don't have a problem with recruiting Milks and think he will add value..... just have concerns about what we are said to being paying for him. I'd have thought a middle to late 2nd round pick would have been more appropriate. Fingers crossed we either have another 2nd rounder in the pipe-line that we are going to use instead or we are getting similarly equal value for one of our cast-offs which will make this look better in the wash up. That's just me though, I always get a lot more excited by youngsters than I do cast-offs/ disgruntled pickups. If we can get some other good picks traded in then no-harm done.

I suppose the trouble is not all clubs would have the exact same opinion on the draft depth.

Paying full price when there's a 25% off sale next door Hopefully it's not our original 2nd rounder

Hope so.

I'm looking really hard - hopefully there's another string attached, as in we will get something similar to that for Toumpas

Surely that's overs

Brown paper bags don't make for good handbags, but there good for carrying [censored] loads of cash.

Well there you go, another lefty.

I agree with Shifter's views from the draft camp - Aaron Francis would be a great pick up this year if he drops to us at 6. He's not a left footer, but an excellent kick nonetheless and an excellent fit next to the Hulk - He looks like a much more talented and physically gifted version of Tom Lynch from the Crows.

2 years remaining - signed a 2 year extension last October is my understanding. http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news/2014/10/brisbane-youngster-daniel-mcstay-signs-new-two-year-contract-extension-which-will-tie-him-to-the-lions-until-the-end-of-2017/

And he's a Lefty!

Remember the movie "The Recruit" with Al Pacino??? "EVERYTHING'S A TEST"

With the Lions taking Schache in the Draft, that makes McStay to the Dees a little more possible/ believable - As in the Lions won't be short a key forward. FWIW - McStay was one of my predictions to be a good player prior to his draft year, and when I mentioned this on Demonland all I got was the sound of crickets.

Fair point - Looks like Sparta is a good yard stick Who would? N.Jones Brayshaw J.Viney mental blank.....anyone else? James McDonald Nathan Brown T.Viney Rod Grinter um?....

What are they on holidays over there are they? Maybe Leonidas can give us some tips on hardening the f*** up. I heard that Persian god King Xerxes was a left footer and quite a handy player for Hawthorn in his day and was quite fond of horse drugs

This guy stood out to me also. 15-20 range looks like pretty good value Also like the sound of Fiorini - bit of a ball magnet with class

Wish we would play like Spartans.

High chance that one of these guys will be on our list by the end of year: Braden Fiorini Northern Knights/Greensborough 22/8/1997 Height: 186cm Weight: 75kg Classy medium midfielder or defender who uses the ball very well on his preferred left foot. Solid performer for Victoria Metro in NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 15 possessions in three matches but has starred for Knights in the TAC Cup, averaging 30 possessions at 76 percent efficiency across 11 matches this season. Ben Keays Morningside/Lions Academy 23/02/1997 Height: 185cm Weight: 78kg Medium midfielder/forward who is a ball magnet with terrific work rate and uses the ball with great efficiency on his preferred left foot. Can push forward where he regularly impacts the scoreboard. Now a dual Under-18 All-Australian and won the Queensland MVP and the Harrison Medal – Division Two Best and Fairest. Member of NAB AFL Academy and Lions Academy. Averaged 28.7 disposals (11 contested) in three matches at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Tyrone Leonardis Northern Knights/North Heidelberg 22/02/1997 Height: 182cm Weight: 78kg Medium defender/midfielder who possesses a terrific step through traffic when in possession. Disposes of the ball neatly on his preferred left foot and is prepared to take the game on. Averaged 13 possessions and three tackles in five games at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. At TAC Cup level, has averaged 17.6 disposals at 75 percent efficiency in 12 matches this year. Joshua Schache Murray Bushrangers/Seymour 21/08/1997 Height: 199cm Weight: 96kg Tall forward that presents up strongly on the lead and had a very clean set of hands in the marking contest. His goal sense in general play is excellent as is his set shot goal-kicking on his preferred left foot. His strong mature body gives him an advantage over the opposition and he uses it very well in contested situations. Won the Larke Medal - Division One best and fairest player and the Vic Country MVP as well as All-Australian honours. Averaged 15.8 disposals, 6.7 marks and kicked 24 goals (averaged four goals per game) at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Member of NAB AFL Academy. Matthew Allen Glenelg/North Gambier 18/10/1997 Height: 193cm Weight: 97kg Tall forward who is quality user of the ball, particularly on his preferred left foot. Other strengths include his lead up marking, displaying a safe set of hands. Understands how to use his body in contested situations, regularly winning one-on-ones. From an elite cricket background. Kicked 15 goals in six matches at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Riley Bonner West Adelaide/Goodwood 7/03/1997 Height: 191cm Weight: 80kg Tall defender with penetrating left foot and is very efficient on his non-preferred side. Breaks the lines with his rebound from defence. Can play tall or small. Progressed from Under-18s to senior level with West Adelaide this year. Averaged 18 disposals and five rebounds 50s at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships winning All-Australian Under-18 honours. Eric Hipwood Aspley/Caloundra 13/09/1997 Height: 200cm Weight: 82kg Tall defender/forward with terrific hands overhead in contested situations. Uses the ball effectively on his preferred left foot. Very agile for a player of his size. Plays both back and forward. He played a major role in Queensland winning Division Two earning All-Australian honours. Member of NAB AFL Academy and Lions Academy. Averaged 21 disposals and 7.3 marks at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Darcy Tucker North Ballarat Rebels/Vic Country 23/1/97 180cm/73kg Half-back A rebounding and attacking half-back who can move into the midfield, Tucker has a bit going for him. Athletically he is strong, he has a good build, and a nice turn of foot. When he spots a gap he goes for it, and his left-foot disposal is reliable. Tucker averaged 21 disposals for Vic Country at this year's championships and won All Australian honours, before an on-going ankle injury ruined the second half of his season. Harry McKay (24/12/1997. 200cm, 85kg. Gippsland Power) Tall forward AFL biography: Left footed tall forward/ruckman who has great pace and agility for a player of his size. His ability to mark as a lead up forward is also a feature of his game. Had a standout performance against South Australia at the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships and was a consistent performer throughout. Won All-Australian Under-18 honours this year. Twin brother Ben also invited to NAB AFL Draft Combine. "Harry's really quick and athletic. He's got a little bit of Buddy Franklin about him in the way he wheels onto his left and he's got good agility as well, nice hands. He's a pretty exciting package when you combine all those things together. We see him as a key forward but he's got that ability to get up the ground as well." Peter Francis, Gippsland Power talent manager

Apart from Schache and these guys, who else from this years draft pool is a lefty, anyone? Riley Bonner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGRPSLxA08 Darcy Tucker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQC-iEJNxKs

Very easy to believe that we are recruiting Ben Kennedy and Bugg given that they're both left footers - I'd say lock it in. Someone on the recruiting staff is big on lefties. My guess is it's Viney? Something he got to see up close in his time at Hawthorn. SInce he arrived: Kent Salem VIney jnr Tyson Newton White ----------------------------------- Brayshaw (might as well be) not unlike Mitchell Vince (might as well be) Something that has stuck in my mind from watching training up in Maroochy in Jan (especially from an elevated view point) is how noticable the piercing left footer's in our team are the back-bone of the game-plan, with their ability to obliterate the opposition modern day press etc. And when you watch Hawthorn, they are the best kicking team in the competition for this very reason. Also, you don't have to go back many years to remember when Davey was at his best, how the team relied on his piercing left foot kick to set up play. So this might put things into perspective if there is any doubt about what we might be giving up to get these guys - I like it. Go Lefties!