Whispering_Jack

A good solid selection - following the Gold Coast example we have two young recruits from the same club and both are All Australians.

I believe that Mykelti Lefau could be picked as a Category B rookie as he is originally from New Zealand. However, he’s been around for a couple of years and the club hasn’t opted to do so and therefore, it’s not a likely option. In any case, he wouldn’t therefore be in contention to be drafted like the others.

PRESEASON DRAFT Two players selected - 1. Carlton - Jack Martin 2. Hawthorn - Michael Hartley ROOKIE DRAFT 1. Gold Coast - Joshua Schoenfeld 2. Melbourne - Pass 3. Carlton - Josh Honey 4. Sydney - Brady Rowles 5. St Kilda - Jack Bell 6. Fremantle - Jarvis Pina 7. Adelaide - Ben Keays 8. Port Adelaide - Jake Pasini 9. Hawthorn - Emerson Jeka 10. Essendon - Mitchell Hibberd 11. West Coast - Anthony Treacy 12. Brisbane Lions - Samuel Skinner 13. Collingwood - Pass 14. Geelong - Bradley Close 15. Greater Western Sydney - Jake Stein 16. Gold Coast - Conner Budarick 17. Melbourne - Pass 18. Carlton - Fraser Phillips 19. Sydney - Jack Maibaum 20. Fremantle - Thomas North 21. Adelaide - Ben Crocker 22. Port Adelaide - Trent Burgoyne 23. Hawthorn - Pass 24. Essendon - Pass 25. West Coast Eagles - Mitch O'Neill 26. Brisbane Lions - Corey Lyons 27. Geelong - Oscar Brownless 28. Greater Western Sydney- Thomas Sheridan 29. Brisbane - Matt Conroy 30. Fremantle - Hugh Dixon 31. Adelaide - Pass 32. Port Adelaide - Boyd Woodcock 33. West Coast Eagles - Brendon Ah Chee 34. Brisbane - Archie Smith 35.Geelong -Lachlan Henderson 36. Greater Western Sydney - Zachary Sproule 37. Gold Coast - Malcolm Rosas 38. Port Adelaide - Riley Grundy 39. West Coast - Hamish Brayshaw 40. Greater Western Sydney - Pass 41. Gold Coast - Pass 42. West Coast - Pass

Carlton are big winners. Weren’t forced to trade pick 9 for Jack Martin and now get him for nothing. Trade pick 9 and get 2 players in the top 20. Also bid for both Green and Henry when others looked away. Mind you, Green was looked upon as the next Patrick Cripps and they also have the real one! As much as I don’t like saying this, Carlton now has a team chock full of young talent and will rise quickly.

Jackson and Pickett - I’m just glad there are no leaks at the club these days.

Dees say Jackson will complement Gawn

It will either be a rookie upgrade or pass.

2019 AFL NATIONAL DRAFT ROUND ONE 1. Gold Coast - Matt Rowell (inside midfielder, Oakleigh Chargers) 2. Gold Coast - Noah Anderson (inside midfielder, Oakleigh Chargers) 3. Melbourne - Luke Jackson (ruck, East Fremantle WA) 4. Greater Western Sydney - Lachlan Ash (medium defender, Murray Bushrangers) 5. Sydney - Dylan Stephens (outside midfielder, Norwood SA) 6. Adelaide Crows - Fischer McAsey (key position utility, Sandringham Dragons) 7. Fremantle - Hayden Young (medium defender, Dandenong Stingrays) 8. Fremantle - Caleb Serong (inside midfielder/small forward, Gippsland Power) 9. Fremantle (matched Carlton’s bid) - Liam Henry (outside midfielder/small forward, Claremont WA) 10. Greater Western Sydney (matched Carlton’s bid) - Tom Green (inside midfielder, GWS Academy) 11. Gold Coast - Sam Flanders (inside midfielder/general forward, Gippsland Power) 12. Melbourne - Kysaiah Kropinyeri-Pickett (small forward, Woodville-West Torrens SA) 13. Hawthorn - Will Day (general defender, West Adelaide SA) 14. Port Adelaide - Miles Bergman (medium forward, Sandringham Dragons) 15. Western Bulldogs - Cody Weightman (small forward, Dandenong Stingrays) 16. Geelong Cats - Cooper Stephens (inside midfielder, Geelong Falcons) 17. Carlton - Brodie Kemp (utility, Bendigo Pioneers) 18. Port Adelaide - Mitch Georgiades (general forward, Subiaco WA) 19. Geelong - Sam De Koning (key position defender, Dandenong Stingrays) 20. Carlton - Sam Philp (inside midfielder, Northern Knights) 21. Richmond - Thomson Dow (inside midfielder, Bendigo Pioneers) ROUND TWO 22. Brisbane - Deven Robertson (midfielder, Perth WA) 23. Port Adelaide - Dylan Williams (forward, Oakleigh Chargers) 24. Adelaide - Harry Schoenberg (midfielder, Woodville West Torrens SA) 25. Port Adelaide (matched Sydney’s bid) - Jackson Mead (midfielder, Woodville West Torrens SA) 26. Sydney - Will Gould (tall defender, Glenelg SA) 27. Gold Coast - Jeremy Sharp (midfielder, East Fremantle WA) 28. Adelaide - Joshua Worrell (tall defender, Sandringham Dragons) 29. Hawthorn (matched North Melbourne’s bid) - Finn Maginness (midfielder, Sandringham Dragons) 30. Essendon - Harrison Jones (ruckman, Calder Cannons) 31. North Melbourne - Charlie Comben (ruckman, Gippsland Power) 32. Melbourne - Trent Rivers (defender, East Fremantle WA) 33. Brisbane - Brock Smith (defender, Gippsland Power) 34. North Melbourne - Jack Mahony (midfielder, Sandringham Dragons) 35. North Melbourne - Flynn Perez (midfielder, Bendigo Pioneers) 36. Sydney - Elijah Taylor (forward, Perth WA) 37. Brisbane (matched Essendon’s bid) - Keidean Coleman (forward, Brisbane Lions academy) 38. Essendon - Nick Bryan (ruckman, Oakleigh Chargers) 39. Sydney - Chad Warner (midfielder, East Fremantle) 40. Collingwood - Jay Rantall (midfielder, GWV Rebels) 41. Geelong - Francis Evans (forward, Calder Cannons) 42 Adelaide - Ronin O’Connor (ruckman, Claremont WA) 43. Richmond - Noah Cumberland (forward, Brisbane Lions academy) 44. Richmond - Will Martyn (midfielder, Brisbane Lions academy) ROUND THREE 45. Collingwood - Trent Bianco (midfielder, Oakleigh Chargers) 46. Richmond - Hugo Ralphsmith (midfielder, Sandringham Dragons) 47. Carlton - Sam Ramsay (midfielder, Calder Cannons) 48. Adelaide - Lachlan Gollant (midfielder, Calder Cannons) 49. West Coast - Callum Jamieson (ruckman, Claremont WA) 50. Geelong - Cameron Taheny (forward, Norwood SA) 51. Greater Western Sydney - Jake Riccardi (key forward, Werribee VFL) 52. St Kilda - Ryan Byrnes (midfielder, Sandringham Dragons) 53. Western Bulldogs - Louis Butler (defender, Sandringham Dragons) 54. Richmond - Bigoa Nyuon (ruckman, Dandenong Stingrays) ROUND FOUR 55. Collingwood - Trey Ruscoe (defender, East Fremantle WA) 56. Essendon - Ned Cahill (small forward, Dandenong Stingrays) 57. Hawthorn - Josh Morris (forward, Woodville West Torrens SA) 58. West Coast - Ben Johnson (defender, West Perth WA) 59. Brisbane - Jaxon Prior (defender, West Perth WA) 60. Gold Coast— Jy Farrar (midfielder, Scotch Old Scholars) 61. Fremantle - Minairo Frederick (midfielder, Woodville-West Torrens WA) 62. Western Bulldogs - Riley Garcia (midfielder, Swan Districts WA) ROUND FIVE 63. Essendon - Lachlan Johnson (small forward, Calder Cannons) 64. St Kilda - Leo Connolly (midfielder, Gippsland Power) 65. Greater Western Sydney - Thomas Hutchesson (midfielder, Adelaide Crows SANFL)

My final comment before the draft itself is that I’m hoping if we do have Pickett in mind, that we split the pick and take 14 & 17 for 10 & 28. Pickett is generally regarded as a mid 20s pick so I would take the punt on him lasting to 14 and picking up a better player at 17. Nothing against Pickett - I just think we can do better.

Courtesy of George on the Outer, the Casey v Australia U 18 game is on the Melbourne Big footy replay archive site - the link to the relevant page is: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-melbourne-replay-archive.1144478/page-10

Western Australia took out the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships with a five-point win over Vic Country in July. A number of Sandgropers stood out including 179cm midfielder Liam Henry who is headed to Fremantle as part of its Next Generation Academy. Western Australia appeared to have the game in hand when it led by 31 points but Brodie Kemp led a fantastic comeback with two late goals to put his team in front but a late WA goal stole the game back. Kemp was dynamic and put himself into top 10 calculations with his strong attack on the football. Hayden Young and Lachie Ash provided great drive off half back. Serong and Flanders were handy and did nothing to harm their draft chances. Apart from Henry, WA mid Robertson was dynamic with 28 disposals, six clearances and eight tackles and Luke Jackson was great in the ruck showing some great all round skills. So, on what I saw up to this game I would go for Young for pick 3 and Kemp for 10. I think Jackson would make an interesting work in progress but I wouldn’t pick him ahead of Young. If available I would still take Kemp at 10 ahead of Jackson. The other player who impressed in the championships was Dylan Stephens.

It was shown on Foxtel and I recorded it. I think someone linked that game to a thread on Demonland a little while ago - I’ll try to find out. Lachie Ash played and started really well but was quiet after half time. I’ve been in the pro Green camp since seeing him play for the Allies but on this game, he wasn’t in the category of Rowell, Anderson or Young. I would pick Green at 3 but it appears that we aren’t in that frame.

I’m going back to the game between Casey v Under 18 Australians that was played in April with the Aussies overrunning the Dees in the second half when the Casey coach took off most of his AFL listens. At the time, most of the Under 18s were relative unknowns – today they read like a who’s who of the draft. The standouts were Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson and Hayden Young who imposed themselves as potential top ten selections. On review, a number of others were good in patches and outlined their potential including Tom Green, Brodie Kemp, Jeremy Sharp, Trent Bianco and Caleb Serong but none of them put in what you would call an outstanding four quarter game. They did however, place themselves on the “to watch” list. Since Luke Jackson and Kysaiah Pickett have been anointed by the draft mavens as the likely MFC top 10 draft picks, these are my impressions from my rewind of this game. Jackson was one of two Aussie big men who was strong in the ruck, showed some athleticism and copped a knock in the second quarter. However, I wouldn’t go into raptures about him on that performance. Pickett showed flashes of brilliance, was very clean and fast at ground and dribbled a nice goal through at the end. He’ll be an exciting player if he can adapt to the game at the highest level. However, this game didn’t do anything to convince me that either player should be selected at 3 & 10 respectively.

Tom Petty left this mortal coil two years ago. If he was in rehab today I would call that a modern day miracle.

It’s looking like Jackson & Pickett is a lay down misere ~ The early mail: Who YOUR AFL club is considering drafting in the first round

2019 AFL NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER ROUND ONE 1. Gold Coast 2. Gold Coast 3. Melbourne 4. Greater Western Sydney 5. Sydney 6. Adelaide 7. Fremantle 8. Fremantle 9. Carlton 10. Melbourne 11. Hawthorn 12. Port Adelaide 13. Western Bulldogs 14. Geelong 15. Gold Coast 16. Port Adelaide 17. Geelong 18. Port Adelaide 19. Richmond ROUND TWO 20. Gold Coast 21. Brisbane 22. Adelaide 23. Adelaide 24. Geelong 25. Sydney 26. North Melbourne 27. North Melbourne 28. Melbourne 29. Brisbane 30. North Melbourne 31. Essendon 32. Sydney 33. Essendon 34. Brisbane 35. Collingwood 36. Geelong 37. Adelaide 38. Richmond 39. Richmond 40. Greater Western Sydney ROUND THREE 41. Richmond 42. Hawthorn 43. Carlton 44. Sydney 45. Adelaide 46. West Coast 47. North Melbourne 48. Collingwood 49. Fremantle 50. Hawthorn 51. St Kilda 52. Port Adelaide 53. Western Bulldogs 54. Hawthorn 55. Port Adelaide 56. Richmond 57. Carlton 58. Fremantle ROUND FOUR 59. Greater Western Sydney 60. Greater Western Sydney 61. Essendon 62. Collingwood 63. Hawthorn 64. Essendon 65. Essendon 66. Port Adelaide 67. Port Adelaide 68. Port Adelaide 69. Fremantle 70. Carlton 71. Brisbane 72. Port Adelaide 73. Hawthorn 74. Collingwood 75. Richmond 76. Sydney 77. Richmond ROUND FIVE 78. Gold Coast 79. Fremantle 80. Greater Western Sydney 81. Sydney 82. St Kilda 83. Fremantle 84. North Melbourne 85. Carlton 86. Port Adelaide 87. Hawthorn 88. Essendon 89. Western Bulldogs 90. Gold Coast 91. West Coast 92. Hawthorn 93. Geelong 94. Greater Western Sydney 95. Richmond ROUND SIX 96. Gold Coast 97. Melbourne 98. Carlton 99. Sydney 100. St Kilda 101. Fremantle 102. North Melbourne 103. Port Adelaide 104. Adelaide 105. Hawthorn 106. Essendon 107. Western Bulldogs 108. West Coast 109. Geelong 110. Collingwood 111. Brisbane 112. Greater Western Sydney 113. Richmond Picks can be traded live during the draft.

If he’s the best available at our pick 10, I would take Kossie but I would be surprised if he fitted the bill at that number. What if Stephens or Kemp was available?

Close but no cigar. I believe the Toumpas family were from Cyprus and I don’t think he would be related to the ladies I referred to.

Some respect please Redleg. It was actually not “former Demon Trevor Korn” at all but his late brother Greg Korn, a fine cricketer in his day. I think Peaky was on radio but not a regular - the other person was our panel operator and compere Brendan Luno who was an amateur footballer. And let’s not forget Derby Dave who dazzled us with his horseracing tips. Finey’s forte was his impersonations and his best was of the uncle of Pakistani right arm leg spinner Abdul Qadir who described giving an LBW decision in favour of his nephew for a ball that pitched a foot outside off stump. We were on 3CR which was run by Bill Hartley and because of his far, far left bent, he had little understanding of our programme which was basically full of bullshit about sport and that description just about matched his political beliefs. Unfortunately, Bill seemed to approve more of programming which included shows like the Rastafarian hour which immediately preceded our time slot so that by the time our show came on air, the studio was full of hazy fumes that definitely affected our output and content. The Rastas also supplied the studio receptionist so we had a few interesting moments with crossed lines on our talk back calls. We were eventually unceremoniously discontinued and replaced by an all female programme the content of which I never understood but I believe had something to do with a Greek island called Lesbos. I think it was 3CR’s loss because we were one of their highest rating shows (which isn’t saying much).

I suppose that after the last two or three seasons when the club spurned the upper reaches of the draft, I haven’t delved as deeply into the draft pool as in the past. I taped the games on Foxtel and watched a limited number of highlight reels which, because of their nature, don’t excite me all that much. I admit that I did watch the Dylan Stephens’ highlights which impressed me and, if available and picked at #10, I wouldn’t be upset. I’ve only glimpsed at Luke Jackson and Brodie Kemp’s highlights, remember Rowell, Anderson and Young from the Australia v Casey game and watched the NAB Boys League Grand Final. So now that the club’s draft position has been clarified and we look like having two picks in the top ten and one close to the middle of the second round, I’ve decided to look more closely at the footage available of the real national championship games to get a feel for those touted to come to us in the draft. I have started with the Round 2 game between Vic Country and Vic Metro shown on Foxtel in early June. The game featured the now Gold Coast bound pair of Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson who unsurprisingly were the best players for their team. The former stood out for his dominance in contested possessions - the latter for his classy clearance work and tackling. I don’t think I need say more other than that it’s a pity from our perspective that the AFL changed its tack and decided to go full on with draft assistance for the Suns after burying the Demons when they were just as, if not more, needy five or six years ago. Anderson would have been an ideal pick for us at 2 but that’s enough crying over spilt milk. Despite the fact that the two stars were in the Metro team, the Country boys edged in front just before half time and won an interesting contest by a couple of goals. Their best player was Hayden Young playing off half back who won the possession tally (close to 30) and was excellent rebounding out of defence with his rapier like left foot and strong intercept marking. His teammate Lachie Ash, also impressed with his dash out of defence. Both are definite high end draft potential in the range of our selections. The other player who impressed me was Country midfielder Caleb Serong who also is a top 10 prospect who looks like he could also play as a small forward. Sam Flanders was also a solid contributor who took my eye a bit but I think he’s a bit too much like a number of our inside mids (I wouldn’t discount him but he might have to be in the Patrick Cripps class to sway our recruiters given who we have there). Brodie Kemp also played in the match, mainly deep in defence and didn’t really stand out. He must have improved considerably in later games and before his ACL to have gained his current status. The Metro team had a solid key forward in Josh Smith who kicked a few goals in the first half but faded out later and, on reflection, I don’t think he’s in our top 30 range. I hope to catch up with a couple more games over the weekend and to see if I can work out why we seem so enamored about Luke Jackson ahead of Tom Green and whether Kemp should be in contention.

And now that the delisted free agency window has closer, it’s time for the AFL Drafts ...

Is there any news yet on Clarrie’s shoulder?

This is now where we stand - PRIMARY LIST 1. Oskar Baker 2. Toby Bedford 3. Angus Brayshaw 4. Bayley Fritsch 5. Max Gawn 6. Mitch Hannan 7. James Harmes 8. Michael Hibberd 9. Marty Hore 10. Jayden Hunt 11. Neville Jetta 12. Nathan Jones 13. James Jordan 14. Kade Kolodjiashnij 15. Ed Langdon 16. Jake Lever 17. Oscar McDonald 18. Tom McDonald 19. Steven May 20. Jake Melksham 21. Alex Neal-Bullen 22. Aaron Nietschke 23. Clayton Oliver 24. Christian Petracca 25. Harrison Petty 26. Braydon Preuss 27. Christian Salem 28. Charlie Spargo 29. Joel Smith 30. Tom Sparrow 31. Adam Tomlinson 32. Aaron vandenBerg 33. Jack Viney 34. Josh Wagner 35. Sam Weideman 36. National Draft Pick 3 37. National Draft Pick 10 38. National Draft Pick 28 39. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Harley Bennell) 40. (Reserved for Rookie Upgrade or Mitch Brown) ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY A 1. Kade Chandler 2. Kyle Dunkley 3. Jay Lockhart 4. Corey Wagner ROOKIE LIST: CATEGORY B 1. Austin Bradtke

A raft of draft pick swaps. Adelaide gives Picks 28, 49 and a Future Fourth Round Pick to Fremantle in exchange for Pick 22 and a Future Third Round Pick Melbourne gives Pick 8 to Fremantle in exchange for Picks 10, 28 and a Future Fourth Round Pick Brisbane Lions give pick 48 to Collingwood for a future Third Round Pick The selection table now looks like this:- WHO HAS WHAT PICKS? Adelaide Crows: 6, 22, 23, 37, 45 Brisbane Lions: 21, 29, 34, 71 Carlton: 9, 43, 57, 70, 85 Collingwood: 35, 48, 62, 74 Essendon: 31, 33, 61, 64, 65, 88 Fremantle: 7, 8, 49, 58, 69, 79, 83 Geelong Cats: 14, 17, 24, 36, 93 Gold Coast Suns: 1, 2, 15, 20, 78, 90 GWS Giants: 4, 40, 59, 60, 80, 94 Hawthorn: 11, 42, 50, 54, 63, 73, 87, 92 Melbourne: 3, 10, 28 North Melbourne: 26, 27, 30, 47, 84 Port Adelaide: 12, 16, 18, 52, 55, 66, 67, 68, 72, 86 Richmond: 19, 38, 39, 41, 56, 75, 77, 95 St Kilda: 51, 82, 100 Sydney Swans: 5, 25, 32, 44, 76, 81 West Coast Eagles: 46, 91, 108 Western Bulldogs: 13, 53, 89

Cal Twomey’s Phantom Form Guide: 2019 Phantom Form Guide: November update Knightmare’s updated Phantom Draft updated for the first three rounds