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Melbourne won this game but on the form shown by both of these teams in this round, they would need to lift their game considerably. MELBOURNE B Jay Lockhart Steven May Josh Wagner HB Marty Hore Sam Frost Christian Salem C Nathan Jones Clayton Oliver James Harmes HF Oskar Baker Sam Weideman Jayden Hunt F Mitch Hannan Bayley Fritsch Tom McDonald FOLL Max Gawn Jack Viney Angus Brayshaw I/C Alex Neal-Bullen Christian Petracca Harrison Petty Tim Smith EMG Jordan Lewis Braydon Preuss Charlie Spargo Billy Stretch IN Jay Lockhart Alex Neal-Bullen Harry Petty Tim Smith OUT Jeffrey Garlett (shoulder) Michael Hibberd (collarbone) Jake Lever (knee) Charlie Spargo (omitted) FREMANTLE B Joel Hamling Nathan Wilson Luke Ryan HB Stephen Hill Griffin Logue Brett Bewley C Bradley Hill Nat Fyfe Ed Langdon HF Andrew Brayshaw Brennan Cox Michael Walters F Sam Switkowski Jesse Hogan Brandon Matera FOLL Sean Darcy Reece Conca David Mundy I/C Connor Blakely Taylin Duman Ethan Hughes Darcy Tucker EMG Adam Cerra Travis Colyer Cam McCarthy Lloyd Meek NO CHANGE

As bad as we were in the second quarter, we shot ourselves in the foot in the third. We spent most of the quarter in attack and managed 1 goal 3 to 2 points, a gain of 7 points. A decent side would have had a net gain of 30 points on the basis of the opportunities we had in that term.

So they’ve brought in a tall for a medium midfielder. Interesting.

2020 NAB AFL Draft Combine list (as of September 3) NSW (To be held on Sunday, October 25) Braeden Campbell (Sydney Academy) Charlie Byrne (Murray Bushrangers) Errol Gulden (Sydney Academy) Joshua Green (GWS Academy) Northern Territory (Saturday, October 3) Joel Jeffrey (Wanderers/Gold Coast Academy) Maurice Rioli jnr (Oakleigh Chargers) Brodie Lake (Southern Districts/Central District (SA)/Gold Coast Academy) Queensland (Saturday, October 3) Alex Davies (Gold Coast Academy) Blake Coleman (Brisbane Academy) Carter Michael (Brisbane Academy) Jack Briskey (Brisbane Academy) Max Pescud (Gold Coast Academy) Saxon Crozier (Brisbane Academy) South Australia (Wednesday, September 30) Brayden Cook (South Adelaide) Caleb Poulter (Woodville West Torrens) Corey Durdin (Central District) Henry Smith (Woodville West Torrens) James Borlase (Sturt) Jye Sinderberry (West Adelaide) Kaine Baldwin (Glenelg) Lachlan Jones (Woodville West Torrens) Luke Edwards (Glenelg) Luke Pedlar (Glenelg) Malachy Carruthers (Sturt) Mitchell Duval (West Adelaide) Pheonix Spicer (South Adelaide) Riley Thilthorpe (West Adelaide) Taj Schofield (Woodville West Torrens) Tariek Newchurch (North Adelaide) Tom Powell (Sturt) Tom Highmore (South Adelaide) Xavier Robbins (Glenelg) Zac Dumesny (South Adelaide) Tasmania (Week of Monday, September 21) Jackson Callow (North Launceston) Oliver Davis (Clarence) Patrick Walker (North Hobart) Sam Collins (North Hobart) Vic Country (TBC) Blake Reid (Geelong Falcons) Cameron Fleeton (Geelong Falcons) Charlie Ham (Geelong Falcons) Charlie Lazzaro (Geelong Falcons) Clayton Gay (Dandenong Stingrays) Elijah Hollands (Murray Bushrangers) Henry Sharp (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) Henry Walsh (Geelong Falcons) Jack Ginnivan (Bendigo Pioneers) Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Oakleigh Chargers) Josh Treacy (Bendigo Pioneers) Nick Stevens (Greater Western Victoria Rebels) Noah Gribble (Geelong Falcons) Oliver Henry (Geelong Falcons) Ryan Angwin (Gippsland Power) Sam Berry (Gippsland Power) Seamus Mitchell (Bendigo Pioneers) Tanner Bruhn (Geelong Falcons) Will Bravo (Dandenong Stingrays) Zach Reid (Gippsland Power) Zavier Maher (Murray Bushrangers) Vic Metro (TBC) Lachlan Carrigan (Sandringham Dragons) Archie Perkins (Sandringham Dragons) Bailey Laurie (Oakleigh Chargers) Campbell Edwardes (Calder Cannons) Cody Brand (Calder Cannons) Connor Downie (Eastern Ranges) Conor Stone (Oakleigh Chargers) Corey Preston (Eastern Ranges) Eddie Ford (Western Jets) Ewan Macpherson (Northern Knights) Finlay Macrae (Oakleigh Chargers) Fraser Rosman (Sandringham Dragons) Jake Bowey (Sandringham Dragons) Josh Eyre (Calder Cannons) Joshua Clarke (Eastern Ranges) Liam McMahon (Northern Knights) Liam Kolar (Northern Knights) Luke Cleary (Sandringham Dragons) Matt Allison (Calder Cannons) Max Heath (Sandringham Dragons) Max Holmes (Sandringham Dragons) Nikolas Cox (Northern Knights) Ollie Lord (Sandringham Dragons) Reef McInnes (Oakleigh Chargers) Will Phillips (Oakleigh Chargers) Western Australia (Wednesday, September 30) Blake Morris (Subiaco) Brandon Walker (East Fremantle) Denver Grainger-Barras (Swan Districts) Heath Chapman (West Perth) Jack Carroll (East Fremantle) Joel Western (Claremont) Kalin Lane (Claremont) Logan McDonald (Perth) Nathan O'Driscoll (Perth) Shannon Neale (South Fremantle) Zane Trew (Swan Districts) Also ~ Dragons, Falcons lead the way as AFL announces 2020 Draft Combine list

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So I consulted Titus O’Reilly and he’s very philosophical about the game:- “As for the Swans, their painful season is at least approaching the endpoint, but they always give it a go, which worries me. Why can’t they just give up when things are hopeless? I mean, I give up when things are mildly annoying, but that might explain why I have achieved very little, while the Swans makes finals almost all the time. That’s my big worry in life. That trying is what makes the difference, not destiny and that exhausts me. I’m tipping Melbourne, just to really hurt myself.”

One small step by the Demons ...

"The Saints improved much in 2020. Although we won’t play finals, my boys have been doing a lot this year." Talk about gloom and doom. They currently sit in 7th place with a decent percentage and if they win 2 out of their remaining 3 games, they should just make it. This is the St Kilda equivalent of MFCSS.

Not yet George - and I’m not sure if those outside the recruiting industry ever will. However, there are some resources available such as discussions on bigfooty’s draft boards https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/draft-hub-with-phantom-drafts.284/ Then there’s AFL Draft Central - https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/afl-draft-watch/ The problem this year is that there’s no football happening in Victoria where a majority of the draft pool comes from so recruiters are going to have to rely on scouting in the states where the game’s being played and on 2019 form and a lot of guesswork.

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Based on this, Melbourne wins three games and loses only one of the remaining games but drops percentage which suggests the wins are by narrow margins and the defeat reasonably heavy. I’ll take the place in the top 8 but it’s not the best way to enter a finals series.

1 PORT ADELAIDE Played 14, 44 pts, 128.4% TO COME: Bye North Melbourne Essendon Collingwood 2 GEELONG Played 14, 40 pts, 138.7% TO COME Bye Essendon Richmond Sydney 3 BRISBANE LIONS Played 13, 40 pts, 117.4% TO COME Collingwood Gold Coast Sydney Carlton 4 RICHMOND Played 14, 38 pts, 121.0% TO COME Fremantle Bye Geelong Adelaide 5 WEST COAST Played 13, 36 pts, 115.3% TO COME Essendon Western Bulldogs St Kilda North Melbourne 6 COLLINGWOOD Played 14, 34 pts, 111.7% TO COME Brisbane Lions Bye Gold Coast Port Adelaide 7 ST KILDA Played 14, 32 pts, 113.3% TO COME Bye Hawthorn West Coast GWS Giants 8 MELBOURNE Played 13, 28 points, 111.7% TO COME Sydney Fremantle GWS Giants Essendon 9 GWS GIANTS Played 13, 28pts, 101.8% TO COME Carlton Adelaide Melbourne St Kilda 10 W. BULLDOGS Played 14, 28 points, 100.1% TO COME Bye Hawthorn West Coast Fremantle 11 ESSENDON Played 13, 26 points, 88.9% TO COME Geelong West Coast Port Adelaide Melbourne 12 CARLTON Played 13, 24 points, 97.1% TO COME GWS Giants Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Lions 13 GOLD COAST Played 14, 22 points, 101.8% TO COME Bye Collingwood Brisbane Lions Hawthorn 14 FREMANTLE Played 13, 20 points, 89.1% TO COME Richmond Melbourne North Melbourne Western Bulldogs 15 HAWTHORN Played 13, 16 points, 82.6% TO COME Adelaide St Kilda Western Bulldogs Gold Coast 16 SYDNEY Played 13, 16 points, 80.2% TO COME Melbourne Carlton Brisbane Lions Geelong 17 NORTH MELBOURNE Played 14, 12 points, 76.3% TO COME Bye Port Adelaide Fremantle West Coast 18 ADELAIDE Played 13, 0 points, 54.9% TO COME Hawthorn GWS Giants Carlton Richmond

Trying to work out which of these teams I prefer to see winning today. Slightly favouring the Blues.

I attended a club function before the draft in question. Although, he wasn’t saying definitively who he would pick, the strong impression given by Jason Taylor was that the top three picks were McCartin, Petracca and Brayshaw (but not necessarily in that order) and that irrespective of whoever St Kilda chose with selection #1, then Melbourne would choose the other two. In other words, had they chosen Petracca, then we would have taken McCartin instead.

It also depends on what attitude a team has when it comes out on the ground. A few weeks ago I saw the Swans come out and destroy the Giants but then, they were poor against the Dockers.

If anyone’s complacent about Melbourne’s game against the Swans next week then think again. They gave us a flogging in Round 22 last year so we shouldn’t take them lightly MELBOURNE B Michael Hibberd Sam Frost Jake Lever HB Nathan Jones Marty Hore Christian Salem C Kyle Dunkley Jack Viney Billy Stretch HF Corey Wagner Bayley Fritsch James Harmes F Jordan Lewis Jake Melksham Christian Petracca FOLL Max Gawn Angus Brayshaw Clayton Oliver I/C Kade ChandlerJay Kennedy Harris Alex Neal-Bullen Charlie Spargo EMG Jayden Hunt Declan Keilty Jay Lockhart Braydon Preuss IN Kade Chandler Marty Hore Alex Neal-Bullen Charlie Spargo Billy Stretch OUT Oskar Baker (omitted) Jayden Hunt (omitted) Oscar McDonald (ankle) Steven May (hamstring) Harrison Petty (groin) NEW Kade Chandler SYDNEY SWANS B Callum Mills Dane Rampe Aliir Aliir HB Jake Lloyd Tom McCartin Jordan Dawson C Isaac Heeney George Hewett Oliver Florent HF Ben Ronke Nick Blakey Tom Papley F Kieren Jack Sam Reid Daniel Menzel FOLL Hayden McLean Josh P. Kennedy Luke Parker I/C James Bell Ryan Clarke Robbie Fox James Rowbottom EMG Joel Amartey Lewis Melican James Rose Ryley Stoddart IN Kieren Jack OUT Zak Jones (Injured)

Riccardi turned 20 in November so despite having played a season in the VFL last year, he qualifies and would be a certainty this week. Rivers is next in line on ability and in alphabetical order.

Collingwood fan site recruiting guru Colin Wisbey was asked the question about him and he responded with a “no” because of the “durability” risk. He believes that the Pies have a poor record for managing to have its best 30 players on the park and doesn’t think the risk with him is justified. Also, he thinks the injuries might have curtailed his capability as a “slippery runner” which is what made him such a highly ranked draftee. I tend to agree with this view. The AFL hasn’t yet determined things like list sizes and draft rules and Melbourne already has those four injured horsemen who have missed the entire season through injury as well as a few others yet to play this year. We’re also nursing Harley Bennell back into the game. I think Cockatoo wouldn’t be one of our main targets.

Summary: The team started slowly but really got its game going in the second half to win coming from behind. From halfway through the third quarter, they started to win the contests and the ground balls and they were outstanding with about six goals in the last quarter. The team wasn’t delivering it well to Tom McDonald but he didn’t drop his head and he and Bailey Fritsch teamed up well as the game went on. Fritta put in a quality game and kicked at least four goals - not only dangerous around goals but with his passing to teammates. From the sound of it, we can expect him Fritta kicked back for Thursday’s game against the Swans. Nibbler played an important role in the team’s comeback, not only when forward but also when on the ball. Others who impressed were Corey Wagner who used the ball well, Oskar Baker played his third good game in a row on the wing and kicked a couple of goals going forward and Nev was good in defence. Pleased with Austin Bradtke’s game helping with the clearance work. Note: James Harmes was the holdover emergency.

The thing that I liked was that unlike many games in the past when we dominated the stats and lost, we won this one despite the Saints winning the inside 50s 46-30, clearances 29-23, tackles 47-36, free kicks 11-9, hitouts 31-30 and scoring shots 14-12.

One problem back in those times was that we had such strong teams across all lines and it was so hard for players to break into the team. The drive and incentive to recruit wasn’t there and we weren’t prepared for the inevitable when a number of players retired or left the club. There was no proper succession plan in place and by the time we woke up, other clubs overtook us in terms of professionalism in every aspect of running a football club.

First Semi Final Day 1964 Geelong dominated the second half of the first semi final in front of a crowd of 92,231 at the MCG winning with a score of 12.12.84 to 10.5.65. Otherwise, Saturday 29 August, 1964 was a quiet day for Demon fans.

1 PORT ADELAIDE Played 13, 40 pts, 126.6% TO COME: Sydney Bye North Melbourne Essendon Collingwood 2 BRISBANE LIONS Played 13, 40 pts, 117.4% TO COME Bye Collingwood Gold Coast Sydney Carlton 3 GEELONG Played 13, 36 pts, 140.6% TO COME Western Bulldogs Bye Essendon Richmond Sydney 4 WEST COAST Played 12, 36 pts, 121.3% TO COME Richmond Essendon Western Bulldogs St Kilda North Melbourne 5 RICHMOND Played 13, 34 pts, 119.0% TO COME West Coast Fremantle Bye Geelong Adelaide 6 ST KILDA Played 13, 32 pts, 114.5% TO COME Melbourne Bye Hawthorn West Coast GWS Giants 7 COLLINGWOOD Played 13, 30 pts, 109.1% TO COME Carlton Brisbane Lions Bye Gold Coast Port Adelaide 8 W. BULLDOGS Played 13, 28 points, 101.4% TO COME Geelong Bye Hawthorn West Coast Fremantle 9 MELBOURNE Played 12, 24 points, 112.1% TO COME St Kilda Sydney Fremantle GWS Giants Essendon 10 CARLTON Played 12, 24 points, 100.0% TO COME Collingwood GWS Giants Sydney Adelaide Brisbane Lions 11 GWS GIANTS Played 12, 24 pts, 96.8% TO COME Carlton Adelaide Fremantle Melbourne St Kilda 12 ESSENDON Played 12, 22 points, 85.9% TO COME Hawthorn Geelong West Coast Port Adelaide Melbourne 13 FREMANTLE Played 12, 20 points, 93.5% TO COME GWS Giants Richmond Melbourne North Melbourne Western Bulldogs 14 GOLD COAST Played 13, 18 points, 96.4% TO COME Fremantle Brisbane Lions North Melbourne Bye Collingwood Hawthorn 15 SYDNEY Played 12, 16 points, 81.7% TO COME Port Adelaide Melbourne Carlton Brisbane Lions Geelong 16 HAWTHORN Played 12, 16 points, 82.5% TO COME Essendon Adelaide St Kilda Western Bulldogs Gold Coast 17 NORTH MELBOURNE Played 13, 12 points, 83.1% TO COME Gold Coast Bye Port Adelaide Fremantle West Coast 18 ADELAIDE Played 13, 0 points, 54.9% TO COME Bye Hawthorn GWS Giants Carlton Richmond