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For me, I didn't want Hogan to leave. I've since convinced myself that his head is not really in it and he is going to leave at some point anyway, so we just need to get what we can and move on.

Didn't Freo have a snap board meeting at some point last week? I guess they at least considered the 8 years

They'd need more than pick 18.... ?

That means you do care, at least a little.

If we get pick 5 I'd hope we'd look at doing what someone else suggested earlier. 5 + ?? to Adelaide, who want to get ahead of PA in draft order 8 & 14(?) to us Give 8 + ?? to GC for May/KK Take 14 to draft

.... most common - "well done Belly, what a legend" ?

How?

Yep. That's what happened. FMD

Whatever happens, I just hope this doesn't drag on until last minute Wednesday. Freo can afford to wait once the Neale trade is done. We cant, if we want May and dont have a plan B for getting him without Freos pick. GC may also refuse to trade May if it gets too late in the period as it leaves them no time to use what we give them. They've already said something along those lines.

Very happy about Preuss, but probably in minority when I say I didn't want Tyson to go. He certainly had his limitations, but I think a lot of his good work went unnoticed and unappreciated. Anyway, he's gone now and good luck to him. I wonder who joeboys 'same three words regardless of actual performance' player will be now....

Interesting. Wasn't JH's "open to leaving" declaration with the disclaimer that it had to be Freo? Incidentally, what was his aversion to going to WC? Recall someone saying a while back that he wouldn't go there?

They did, and they also used to be bigger. Everything is getting so goddamn small these days. Remember in the 'old days' where you could actually get your hand inside a Pringles tube? Now only a little kid could do it, and I have to shake the [censored] out! ?

So two different takes on the same story... Final offer from Freo which we have rejected - Trade Radio, TV news First official offer from Freo, which we have rejected, but we are still talking - PerthNOW Which is it? The latter would make more sense, given as some have already noted, that is all they actually have to offer as we speak.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl-trades/afl-trades-2018-demons-reject-fremantles-first-jesse-hogan-offer-ng-b88988406z

Yeah someone posted a screenshot of it somewhere. Maybe in B&F thread.

Isnt that basically what was said from the start? We are happy to keep him unless something is put in front of us that we absolutely couldnt refuse? Narrative has morphed since into this going down like a regular trade, fears of getting low balled.. etc Mother of all offers thanks Freo, or GTFO

Agreed. But where teams do play two rucks, such as the Filth, having that option there would be good. Dual ruck teams and Gorilla forward teams are our two major weaknesses, imo. Preuss gives us the option to address at least one of those.

I recall many here saying exactly the same thing re TMac. Then he got a few more seasons development under his belt and look what he has become. Omac is still only 22 and will barely be 23 at the first bounce of ball next season. Just need a time, imo.

Let's not start ragging on Hogan and getting into the "he was no good anyway" stuff like always seems to happen when a player looks like they are leaving us.

After seeing Vardy & Lycett running around today, I am more convinced than ever that Gawn/Preuss would work and work well. Grundy/Cox killed us on QB

Hopefully they don't employ the services of the Richmond doctor either...

1.00 mark. Doesn't look slow to me

Got it, thanks ?

All I've seen since the big Norf offer came to light is that it was them or nothing. I am not completely across the FA process, but Gaff can go wherever he likes right? Is he obligated in any way to go where WC want him to go? e.g. a club that offers a sweetener vs a club that doesn't? Is he obligated to go to whoever makes the biggest offer or can he decide to take a smaller contract and play for who he actually wants to?