ElDiablo14

Yes, they have. Just didn't have a dynasty. But for sure they have been consistent, which we should've been between 2017 - 2024. Instead we missed finals in 2017, 2019, 2020 and 2024.

Beg to differ. After 2000 there's been 3 dynasties. Lions, Hawks and Tigers. We should've been the next one. 2022 if not for the injuries and mismanagement of our fitness coming into finals, it probably was a GF appearance for sure and who knows.

The fact is, we wasted our premiership window for multiple reasons: - lack of game plan adjustment (too late Goodwin) - lack of strengthening our list. Tell me just one smart and good FA recruitment from 2022 until now. - lack of self-criticism. The coach failed to recognise his tactical failures for far too long. Anyway, now the window is truly shut but luckily we have some good young talent. Let's do a Hawks like rebuild.

Crisis can be opportunities.

There hasn't been since last year. Even more, for many reasons his whole tenure has been a roller coaster. A fun one most of the time, but a roller coaster in deed.

Demonland is, by its own nature, a place for nuffies (feel free to call me one if you wish). We are not here to offer solutions to the club, just to vent our frustrations and disappointments. I suppose you are OK with people having an opinion? As much as you feel like belittling them for being "uninformed".

Worst, it was extended before finals in 2023. He had a lot to prove in my opinion.

I would dare say, win a final or bust. Let's remember we are 0-4 in finals since 2022.

The way the leaders of the playing group performed today speaks louder than anything we can say here. If they love their coach son much you'd think the effort and commitment would be always there. I am not affirming what Hellfire posted but you can't but wonder how committed the players are with their coach.

Reality is,it will always be easier to sack one coach than overhauling your list of A grade players.

Mind boggles why we were not able to bring some A grade talent while being premiership fancies.

Only if we send Petraca or Oliver to Tullamarine.

Do you seriously think that people are fed up with Goodwin just for today? I would ask you to go and read comments here in Demonland from 2023 and 2024.

He inherited a functioning list full of young stars. Got very lucky.

The nightmare continues, thanks Simon. After all the hard work during the off season to steady the ship and shut all the vitriol and rumours around the club, now Simon comes out and in 20 seconds reignites the pille on from the media. Bravo 👏🏻!!

Goodwin is an expert in saying a lot of nothing, can't stomach his pressers specially after a loss.

You're right Essendon will now tank hard. Is this year's draft list deep?

Funny you think we have ANY chance for top 4 this year. We'll be lucky not to give Essendon a top 5 pick.

But that requires a change in coach ... ,🤔

Not so much fluke, but everything worked perfectly for us. Unlikely to happen again. Our list became worse YOY, no idea why we were not able to attract top talent FA for the last 3 years. Besides Grundy who we dismissed after one season.

You are entitled to your opinion. Hard for me to see us compete (i.e win a final, which we haven't done since September 2021). I think we are in the cross roads of a potential rebuild. Which is not so bad considering the talent we have collected in the draft the last 3 years.

I did not say retire Gawn. I want to really think what are we going to do with our veteran players. Wether you like it or not they won't play forever. Are we rebuilding? Do we think we have even a remote chance to compete in the next 3 season?

Simpson reeks of Goodwin 2.0, it's a no for me. Should be more bold and try a new guy like Hawthorn did.

Our problem is that we won't move forward, like with Goodwin. That includes the playing list, as hard the decision may be.