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And I thought he was just pointing at his direct opponent and asking someone to man him up ...

Thread is very useful if people actually have first hand info in draftable players. What's less useful is definitive statements about who will go where in the draft. Like Bob says - what if Carlton trade pick 1 to WC for Judd - is it certain that WC will take Kreuzer? Nobody knows for sure.

Geelong.

It's hard to tell with you "mate". Your track record is patchy ... Was that also sarcastic or would you really trade McLean or Rivers for a top 10 pick? It's never a good sign when Yze Magic agrees with you

I actually think the other two may be thick enough to think that logically follows, but I'm surprised at you.

Have you been missing?

John Townsend >

OK great then because you're so certain you'll be happy to pledge a year's salary to the MFC if it doesn't happen?

The only people whose opinions matter are Hughes, Miller (unless he's been replaced) and Cameron - all the rest is speculation. I saw on this thread some reference to Ratten's opinion - his opinion would/should be advisory at most - it's the recruiter's job to select the draft talent.

Needs 10,000 kicks to become a player - 9,714 to go

Interesting choice for Richmond at 2 if the Blues take Kreuzer at 1. Take a small in Cotchin?

If it was certain that we wont win a flag in my lifetime I would be out of here. I believe we will and that sustains me.

Close, but more likely: "Sheedy missed an opportunity" to coach us. With his record he would clearly have started front-runner in the quest and was my preferred candidate. My take is that he just didn't present as well as the other candidates and this confirms the fears of those against Sheedy's appointment that - while he was once a great coach - HE is now over it.

On the other hand Haydo would have us believe Sheedy has had the job for weeks and the whole process is "just window dressing" - but those who support Sheedy don't have a problem with that. I'd be very unhappy if that was the case and I'm confident it isn't. Schwab was part of the early process and has been brought back in to fill in for Chris fagan who has been excluded because he's leaving - there's nothing sinister about that. In the absence of inside information or being part of the process I'm a Sheedy supporter because his great record outweighs the doubts about whether he is past it. But really I'm a supporter of the process - we need to examine all the candidates and find who is the best fit. Sheedy should start favourite for the reasons above but who knows what may happen thru the process - he may shine or he may bomb, clearly he's gone OK because he made it to the last 5. I want us to choose the best coach, if that's Sheedy great, if it's Bailey - who no-one here would've rated before the process started - then great too.

uppa kaas iz ova raated. fonetiks rool!

Yes it's exciting and Robbo is on 9 tackles for the year - maybe he can do the extraordinary and get into double figures tonight in honour of the skipper!

Pity ... a presentation to Chris Fagan on Carlton's gameplan going forward would've been very useful

Trade him for an early 2nd rounder

Hey Rhino, can I borrow a screwdriver ...

Stats: Kicks: 14 Handballs: 0 Goals: 3 Arguing with umpire while opponent streams out of defence with the ball: 21 Pointing at his opponent hoping someone will pick him up: 32 Goal assists: huh???

Final year of Adem Yze's contract - I'm expecting a big year from him in 2008.

and increased the IQ of both places?

I'll sign a petition to keep Byron ... away from the fridge.

Yes agree with that and 1 yr contract with low base and decent match payments.

Do you think we could get Nicho back in the Pre-season draft? That would be great!