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That's a good list but that's not where value with PSD 2 is going to come from. Those delisted players can be picked up by anyone as delisted FA. The value comes in convincing someone who's required but still out of contract to come to us in that draft.

Maybe above GWS and St.Kilda (and Essendon depending on what happens with ASADA). There's a much greater chance we'll finish last than make the 8.

For the people that like this thread that would mean he is already an improvement on Nathan Jones.

OMG!

PSD Pick 2 effectively Pick 1 now with GWS committed to Lamb after trade didn't eventuate.

I think once the final ins and outs of the trade period are tallied Pelchen will be looking pretty good. Dal Santo and McEvoy out - Savage, Longer and Bruce in. It does depend on decent drafting but they've got 3 top 20 picks

Trade Frenzy - Saints trade period looking better by the minute.

Agree, I'm willing to believe that there is some possibility that Roos can transform Pedersen into a useful key back.

My completely uneducated leap to rash conclusions based on some sound analysis from good judges: 5. Gold Coast: KK - Scott Clayton special and they need someone like him off HB. 6. Collingwood: Freeman - to replace Swan and fair chance they'll get Bontempelli at 10 too, only Brisbane and us between them. On that basis only 3 of your 4 - Aish, Scharenberg, Kelly and Billings - fit in picks 2-4, one of them at 7 to Brisbane? Might have another look at that Lennon footage ...

Pick 9 for Danny Seow and pick 10?

ADC?

A very warm welcome to Daniel Cross. The heartfelt sentiments of goodwill from Dogs supporters on BigFooty are a great endorsement of the benefit he'll bring to us and I'm very glad he's joined us. On the question above - Grand New Flag, hardnut, Baghdad Bob, bandicoot among a few others (but not me) can take plenty of credit for seeing the writing on the wall early.

Docherty to Carlton for 33.

I think they'll be better with Mumford, Shaw, Hunt and Lamb. I read that their target is 6 experienced bodies so they'll be looking for 2 more from somewhere before trade, delisted FA and draft is done.

All trade roads lead to Brisbane now (except for maybe Gumby to Freo). Five players to trade - Polec (Port/Crows), Longer (Saints), Yeo (WC), Docherty (Carlton or maybe Essendon), Karnezis (Collingwood or maybe North). Looks like they'll end up with picks in the 20s or early 30s for all of them except maybe Paine for Karnezis. We may be able to get involved with a player for one of those picks so they don't have to go to the draft with all of them.

GWS are truly desperate for experienced talent - they've taken on Josh Hunt! Collingwood had them over a barrel - they had to close the Shaw deal and Adams wanted to go to the Pies. When Collingwood had only 6, 10 and 67 there's was no capacity for a pick upgrade sweetener.

The AFL might have some idea though.

Caro said on 3AW she expects between 6 and 10 AFL players to receive infraction notices. Note she didn't say "Essendon players".

I don't think so, I think the delisting has to be this year. He'd have to be drafted. Like Mitch Thorp.

Jones still our best midfielder, yes we've got him some more support in Cross, Tyson and Michie. Viney will make an impact. Vince in for Sylvia out. Can Roos rapidly elevate Trengove, Watts and Toumpas? It's a long road. Bottom 4 a lock IMO.

Toumpas+40 9+Howe absolutely

Crameri to the Dogs and Gumby to Freo will happen.

The optimism on here is predictable. Let's face it - we've got about 5 players who currently are proven at AFL level without question marks - N.Jones, Viney, Frawley, Garland, Grimes - that's why we've been sh1thouse. We can add 2 more from recent acquisitions - Vince and Cross. That's 7 and none of them are stars. It's reasonable that with development and freedom from injury we can add 9 more - Hogan, Watts, Toumpas, Dawes, Trengove, Clark, McDonald, Tyson, Howe. A case can be made for Gawn, M.Jones, Terlich, Fitzpatrick, Clisby, Michie. That makes 22 players but not a balanced match-day 22. The jury is way out on the rest. We've got a long road ahead still.

Dom Tyson will probably stick with 29.

Sounds like Longer is going to get to St.Kilda and Yeo to WC for 31. Brisbane may be in the Jamar market. Jamar + 40 to Brisbane for 31 Jamar + 57 to Brisbane for 45 Jolly via delisted FA.