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Yeah, but when we play Carlton away with our new jumpers of dark navy - I think we should wear a clash strip. I'm not saying we should against Freo, or the Lions, but where there is one clash - there is a need for a clash strip.

Yes, I would wonder whether 'Thomo' would be agianst this if it was framed such as this: If you were running a club and could secure a top 10 talent (for a pick below his proposed market value) two years before the draft so you could properly prepare him for his career would you do it? It's a rhetorical question. Imagine grabbing Tom Scully ot Jack Trengove when he was 16 and getting him ready for his debut two years later. It really is a no-brainer.

The 'clash lobby'? I hope you are being flippant. Sports all over the world have clash guernseys and we would have one of those sports that is the most in need of differentiating between teams. And the historical - we played for 100 years with no problems - doesn't fly because the game is quicker than it has ever been. It's no longer 'one-on-one, get it and turn around and bomb it' footy. It is either overpopulated scrums, or incredibly quick handball and short passing.

I reject most of that. I'm sorry. The 'reverse uniform' is a bastardisation of our guernsey and it wouldn't alleviate all clashes and therefore we would need a second bastardisation - most likely white. Let's get the one white guernsey, wear it fleetingly, and finish top so we don't have to wear it in finals.

If we want our navy blue from the past - which is something Cam has said we will get to - we are going to clash with PA and Carlton. Brad Miller tackled Matty Whelan at OO one afternoon... And the WB have both our colours. I really think you have missed the mark with this post.

Which is one of the reasons why I would prefer the white as it would mean one bastardisation and not two. And I agree that if if Cam can negotiate out of clashes with Freo, GC, Lions, then we may only have to wear it a couple of times a year.

Yes, but it doesn't mean that I shouldn't admonish them. I think moving from commonplace indecency doesn't mean we should accept it or be numbed by it.

The last line is the reason we did this so early.

You should take notes...

This is such a pitch perfect post. I really hope he took ages writing this post. He gave both sides reason to buy into his position and didn't hide the fact that the result isn't ideal. Take note kiddies when you are doing your VCE - have your viewpoint/decision but also point out, effectively, that good people can disagree and that there are always two sides to every argument. Unless we are invading Iraq. Sorry to point that out but there are exceptions to every rule. Except the 'exception rule' - that has no exception. Which backs up the rule as it is the exception to the 'exception rule.' Follow?

November 1st is effectively 2011 they way I read the agreement. I think WYL has it, but it doesn't allow clubs to not have an inkling of what they could get in the draft. FCS, it's pick 25 - you are going to get a decent player.

Look DC and I have butted heads for ages on this but for me, if you change the quernsey at all you may aswell make it the only 'other' one we have to wear. So that red one won't do. They will still make us wear a white one against Essendon, Crows, GC, etc. And just so no-one accuses me of some sort of heresy, I agree that clash guernseys are required but if it is our home game - I would prefer we stay in the rooms or cop a fine than wear anything other than our NAVY blue jumper with a blood red yoke, blue shorts, and red socks.

If we are taking this strip we wore for less than a decade because of historical reasons then why not go back to the all-white we wore in our formative decades? (all teams wore them and I know DC hates it when I bring it up but we were called the invincible whites) To me, that awful strip from the early eighties means less to me as a Dees fan than white.

How is that any different? You have his father on the payroll and you are telling him you are going to take his kid and then the worst happens and you weasel out? Well thought through...

So I guess you're not so tied to the red and blue... If we were going to wear any other colour, I'm ok wearing a non-colour.

Anyone have a mint?

Well said, Eore. They did this to keep other clubs from chatting him up closer to the date. We have obviously been in his ear - as we should be. We have the means to secure him - which we definitely should use. We have obviously rated the youngsters coming through with him and made a determination - as we should. We have told the kid, and the world that we will take him as its a no-brainer - as we should. And if it doesn't work out he will cost us Pick 14 and around $160k. But if it does work out...

So we are the red and the blue but you are happy to be red or blue? Liverpool or Carlton? That's less Melbourne Footy Club than a white strip with red and blue and/or a demon on it in my opinion.

I wouldn't think he will be seen on the track this summer but who knows?

They had quite an awful jumper using their colours in the mid 90s. These jumpers are hard to do, harder to sell, which is why I am malleable on the subject.

The only real benefit would be the fact that he can be in a professional environment in the summer before he gets drafted which might mean he will rip it up in the u/18s but also be ready to go Rd 1, 2013.

I never thought white was mandatory. It's just a colour that makes sense since no club has a predominantly white home strip. Although Geelong have the closest thing considering they love their white shorts. Hence Freo, Hawks, Adel, et al going white.

I'd PV if I saw Tom Scully wear that colour. Is this acceptable to a couple of you because it still 'blue'? To me, that is absurd. It's a different colour. At least white isn't a different colour - it's a non-colour.

Could of had a better chance if delisted earlier. It isn't whether any club would have taken him in the nat draft, it's about forward planning - which clubs do before the nat draft.