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2 hours ago, rpfc said:

Really good get.

Also, congrats on her marriage to Gerald Yourthoughts!

Welcome back Clare Pettyfor-Yourthoughts

 

This is an absolutely reprehensible pun. Just absolute trash.

The saying is ‘penny for your thoughts’ not ‘petty.’

This ain’t it.

#BeBetter

Really good get.

Also, congrats on her marriage to Gerald Yourthoughts!

Welcome back Clare Pettyfor-Yourthoughts

Really can’t take too much yet out of where we sit in the league but there are insights that Goodwin and the new bloke McQ have altered our play, and there are some seeming positional wins that we desperately needed.

How we play

We seem to be trying to quickly pivot and switch (sometimes corridor) when we get a turnover which isn’t new, what is new is that there some hands and then a rule/desire to kick to someone forward side of wing. This means a few things; less kicks ‘over the head to space’ as we do less chain handball over 40m, it also allows Fritsch, BB and JVR to lead at the footy on quick movements as that player that has it forward wide of wing stops props and lets the forward execute in space. 

We also preferred to avoid the long bomb if we could, which coupled with the above meant shorter kicks and the most marks we have had in years.

The focus on movement from the backline is a Neil Balme for me because we know we can win stoppages, we know we can up the pressure up forward, what we haven’t done well really ever in Goodys reign is transition the ball from end to end, preferring to limit how often it gets down there.

FINALLY, we are taking this backline out for a test drive and seeing what it can withstand so that we can move it quickly, deliberately into the space of some smart forwards.

Positionally, Hore looks fine and so does Howes, so we MUST KEEP SALEM IN THE GUTS!

On 13/03/2024 at 21:26, BoBo said:

I’m wondering how high and long Landers’ would be prepared to go?

5 years, $1.25 million a year?

10 years, $1 million+ a year?

 

What figures would be the top end you’d be happy to go?

Most landers wouldn’t know what the salary cap is without googling so we can just ignore that.

Aside from me of course…

One segment on Binman naming names.

Off the long run up. 

And the kicker - the last name…

… gets banned!

5 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Are you talking about the post game, on ground, interview with Sarah Jones @leave it to deever?

I beg to differ. Clarry was the headline of the summer - like it or not. I think most of it was complete BS quite frankly - but it is what it is. Neither we, nor Clarry, can wish it away or pretend that millions of people aren't interested in Clarry's recent past. Sooner or later Clarry has to talk to the media. He's a superstar who generates clicks. I saw the interview as a positive. For example:

1. Jones is a decent person who asked respectful questions about his summer
2. Clarry answered the questions with dignity and honesty
3. Max led, as usual, by riding shot-gun.

Better Clarry re-enters the 'hyper pathologicalised' AFL world (yes, I'm talking about you Wilson, Cornes and Craig Fetishison) via Sarah Jones and Max than any other method IMHO.

Well said, QD.

Sarah was fine and there is no ‘good after match interview’ so that was as good as it gets as the club tries to get our best player to avoid becoming Dusty Martin (we literally can’t afford it), and as foxtel tries to get a little scoop that doesn’t make the club shut up shop for a few months.

Its awkward because it’s awkward; a public life seen and judged, with questions of that person because he ‘played footy game real well.’

Well done to all. 

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It’s a joke because as we know Freo were coming hard at Gus with a long term deal as well. Most quality players in demand these days get long term deals. And none of them are immune from concussion. At any point any player on a long term deal could get knocked out by Maynard and be forced to medically retire. 

A club should not be scared to sign quality players to long term deals because the AFL is senseless enough to force them to pay the deal out under their cap, should a player be forced to medically retire. 
 

I wonder what would happen if heaven forbid a player on a long term deal was in a fatal or very serious car accident and could no longer play.

 

Yes, and also, if you have concussion a certain amount of times - are clubs then expected to request CT scans before contracts are ratified? A biopsy of the blood-brain barrier? And then do they get 50% of the contract due to the increased risk?

Knees can be tested and gambled on - heads are a couple of Brayden Maynard ‘smothers’ away from retirement…

19 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

If that’s true why is everyone saying this is unprecedented?

Because language is dead and every time I try to correct anyone I am called a pedant. 

The words they are trying to say is that the length of contract makes this a potentially difficult long term issue for our cap if we don’t get settlement outside our cap.

One year for McCartin is a balm, a salve, for a club trying to help a damaged person. 5 years of full relief is the Demons trying to undo a ‘disastrous’ list management decision. 

Everyone loves charity until it’s so large that they internalise it; ‘we will never get that charity so no one deserves it.’

Prove her wrong people, prove her wrong.

8 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Hrmm... I gently disagree. Not because I don't like Rivers having the ball, but because I don't like too much emphasis on 'player x should do this type of thing and player y should do that kind of thing'.

In my mind it is the Terry Wallace syndrome. Excessive designation of roles leaving players mentally limited and trying to follow rules that are about who and 'what' they are, instead of the situation they are in.

Ha, fun side note - I was just about to give a second example after Richmond under Wallace, and it was going to be the Bulldogs of the late 90s early 2000s.... under Terry Wallace. I'm comfortable with the name!

Coincidentally, I think Sydney's greatest strength is the spread of mid-sized players who are ready to do whichever task falls to them at that moment of play. Obviously it is a little easier when you have an extra four top-5 draft picks courtesy of special consideration for the commercial need to bias an entire competition to serve its most fickle supporter base, but they still do it well.

You may think that anyone at Sydney can do whatever is needed but that is a fallacy; teams like that are structured so well at stoppages and contests that the players that they want to get the ball on the outside or front of the play are the players that get the ball.

We have been good with this mostly due to our defensive wingers being on the outside although I don’t really rate Langdon’s kicking. 

We should be structuring up to get Rivers, Salem, McVee, Windsor, Bowey the ball and pushing CO, CP and JV to the next contest but we don’t. Because they are our best players and they must kick, sorry, dump the ball forward. 

Sorry bad mood this morning.

9 hours ago, demon3165 said:

It's called the game plan, forward line is stagnant as the ball comes in.

It can’t be.

There are no excuses like in 2022 when we were protecting our mids and kicking to flanks and pockets.

We may have learned bad habits that are hard to unlearn but to think that the coaches want to see inertia and stagnancy is just wrong.

10 hours ago, monoccular said:

JVR was in effect a solo tall in the forward line. A solo tall target for our upfield players and a more so a single tall target for the opposition to concentrate on. He desperately needs a tall helper, one with bit of passion and competitiveness so not the nice guy Schache.   Trouble with that question is who can fill that role?

The other downside to not having that big lump up there is that this is prime ‘development’ years for JVR and I fear he is learning all the wrong lessons. For example last year, even when he wasn’t the ‘out’ kick up the ground (when Gawn or Grundy was), he didn’t then move to exploit space that he could utilise in the F50, he just mirrored the actions of the lump that calls for it on his head to get territory (‘out’ kick).

I hope Petty and JVR allow each other to have more freedom but it’s a combination of how we move the footy, our desired structures AND individual capability and talent that will get us a functioning forward line for Petty and, especially, JVR to adequately develop in.

But it’s all hope. Need to see it.

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

It’s not irrelevant but sure whatever. 
 

We should get better as forwards return to the forward line and push out the runners that don’t know how to utilise space or have effective leading patterns.

Cant tell if we have connection issues yet until Fritsch has some friends down there. Petty, McAdam, Pickett - get those four for a few months and we will see what our ball movement is like.

JVR gets a pass as a young tall but I watched him closely at games last year and he didn’t impress me with his movement and craft. 

Really glad to see us push him into the 22. We lucked out with McVee - not everyone progresses like that. So he needs time and what a backline to develop in?!

14 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Around 6.30 usually. 

2 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Wow, Spargo in, go Charles. From all reports he was flying on the track prior to the achilles setback. 

If he doesn’t play this week, he will be hard pressed to get a look in with Pickett and McAdam coming back in the next few weeks.

1 minute ago, praha said:

Schache in for McDonald. 6 months later lol

Hilarious 

I am new born baby, never watch a football game before, and am unfamiliar about customs to do with this sport which I have followed since yesterday.

So when are the…

…teams announced?

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

It’s hard to argue with that. His only intention was the upper body and he jumped off the ground. These things happen quickly but they are an eternity to these guys.

Simpkin was distressed with concussion symptoms immediately from the vision.

What are we doing here? The week after a bloke is medically retired due to hits to the head.

What is the game about? 

59 minutes ago, Nascent said:

 

Also @adonski might contest you on the OG status.

As the original Freo Death Rider I can’t condone nor authorise this supposed sequel. 

Sorry.

It was a practice match, all you can take out is process (and not outcome); and we looked like we took time with the footy and preferred to enter the forward line to the advantage side of a specific player or contest. 

We have a big midfield and they should take their time - we should have more holding the footy decisions against us than we do - it’s our great strength and we should be pushing the limits of how long to hang on to it to make a good decision, and asking teams to bring us down.

The best thing said on the day was when Goodwin talked to Fox before the game about ‘not worrying too heavily about what we are not, and embracing what we do well’ and that is music. We are never going to be a precision footy team, we are never going to avoid mistakes, but we are a team with a midfield of bulls and we should that should lean into that and make the most of it.

4 minutes ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

Perfect hit out. Looks like our old warriors still have it, some younger role players are ready to step up, and our teenagers (namely Windsor) have serious talent. 

Not convinced by Schache's role, even in the short term, but even he kicked 2 and did his bit. 

Clarry looks like he's going to be cherry ripe just in time for Round 0 too. 

 

 

From the sounds of it - we are not rushing him back. 
 

We have had such an interrupted and maligned pre-season that I would prefer we build toward the season and not think that the season is won and lost in the first month.

Losses are not the end of the story, but mishandled individual chapters will be.

We seem to have really pushed them tonight.

Really pushed them

Obviously just here to confirm Oliver got through and was as good as he should be at this level.

i do have one question…

How does a team ‘push’ another team by being three goals ahead of them?! 
 

You were pushed past, you fell over, you were pulled apart, whatever. But you weren’t ‘pushed’…

Yes I care about things that are irrelevant