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Do they have a tribunal process in the VFL? 4 weeks is insufficient.

lifted slightly to get him high. Shoulder breaking his jaw.

This should end your season, doing this in late May.

16 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

In which economy?

The false economy, Jaded. The false economy 

4 hours ago, gs77 said:

While there are perhaps few people consuming all 9 non overlapping games broadcast each weekend, not overlapping them maximises the hours per week that there is a game on, thus maximising the chance that people will watch at least some. From the broadcaster's perspective (who pay a lot of money for the rights), this is surely preferable to the alternative. 

The alternative being?

I think if you gave Fox the opportunity to take an exclusive Friday night game instead of the dead Sunday twilight for example - they would take it.

And what do we care as fans? We still can’t watch it on FTA.

I still haven’t heard a good ‘the broadcasters want it’ argument - at the end of day… the long Sunday of 8 straight hours of senseless footy… the broadcasters want eyeballs and subscribers. Don’t think it’s met with NM v ESS having ‘room to breathe’…

We are talking broadcast times here and schedules and feel free to merge with something similar but I want to talk about the ‘overlap’ of games that the football media is so consumed by.

Am I the only one who doesn’t give a flying? I don’t care if there are overlapping games - I am a fan of MFC not the AFL. The footy media might groan about having to go and watch a replay of a game to do their job but surely no one gives a flying?!

Personally, the product needs to be protected from too much NM, Haw (lol), WC, and Essendon. Having Thursday night, Friday night, sat night, and Sunday 3.20 and the rest can be whenever Fox want them to be or just Sat and Sun at 2pm like families would love them to be. 

Am I alone here or are you like Rob Lowe…

Well, Geelong got flogged. Can’t imagine there isn’t a very good reason.

NOT AN EXCUSE, ITS NOT AN EXCUSE

But I do wonder the reason for it… illness, distracting troubadours, whatever it may be… 

BUT DONT YOU DARE SAY THAT THESE ARE EXCUSES

These Geelong people will attack you upside the head with reams of public money.

Public 

Money

8 hours ago, Young Blood said:

I worry about Petty's little foot if he's going to do ruck work. Precious boy

His career mirrored the turn the club took into professionalism, elite performance, and sustained excellence.

His legacy is yet to be finalised but it will make quite a story if it ended today.

On 13/05/2024 at 19:54, WalkingCivilWar said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1542776/narrm-guernsey-launch-2024?videoId=1542776&modal=true&type=video

This video is really worth watching. Mali is the designer of this season’s Narrm guernsey and she tells the story of her beloved little brother’s second chance at life which is the inspiration for her design. I watched this vid when it was put on the website about a fortnight ago and today I had the absolute pleasure of meeting Mali and her little brother KC who were at Gosch’s. Regardless of how you feel about the guernsey design, you’ll love it once you’ve heard their story. 

Such a lovely story, I hope the club keeps this design for a few years. Or gets Mali to do a series.

There has been a disturbing recent trend on social media with our indigenous members of our community having their identity questioned from the ignorant overseas. Won’t go into more because it isn’t relevant to my next point but I am really proud of the club that they do this and that we just make it a part of this storied club.

The best time to start a tradition is ten years ago, the second best time is today.

I think that’s the saying…

6 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Disco and JVR all confirmed out

McAdam will get his chance

If Fullerton is unavailable, then Schache comes in. BBB cannot ruck

Petty can go in there.

Don’t watch enough Casey to know who comes in with Brown. Maybe go smaller in Perth and against the Saints.

Its not immaterial but the bigger concern is first use, rebounding quickly, and hitting up shorter targets around the 50.

On 10/05/2024 at 06:39, dees189227 said:

Must win & must start well

So you’re saying to not let them lead 36 to zero??

…

3 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

I'm hoping come Rounds 15-16ish our more expansive, attacking method has become more instinctive as it did Collingwood in 2022.

I do think the most fascinating watch is our midfield. What did you think of our centre stoppage set ups last night? I felt they were far too aggressive for too long.

I didn’t mind it because that’s the best midfield and we were 6-2… you don’t get any chance to test yourself if you move away from your sets and go defensive. I would do that in a final, but guys hate it because you spent all week preparing and then you get the call that ‘nah, let’s not bother’ - it sucks a bit of life out I feel.

In terms of our stoppages, I am ambivalent because the guys know they can get great clearances, chest facing goals, front of stoppage clearances, I just don’t think we put a great deal of focus on it because time is precious and I would prefer Clayton understand how he can use his endurance and smarts to get us going on defensive transition than do basketball like set plays that come off 4 times a game because that is life in the centre where a 208cm bloke has to palm it unseen into a slot for an ‘action’ (as the yanks would say) to be executed in a phone booth.

48 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I disagree mate. I think we deliberately reverted to a forward half territory, long ball game because of the rain, and yes, partly because they started so strongly.

But in essence I agree with the premise that progress in not linear. I think we can still greatly improve our entries with a longer kicking and forward half half if that is what the conditions call for.

That said, one of the admirable things about Collingwood last year is that whatever the conditions, their method remained the same.

Fair enough. I am more thinking about the first quarter where I felt a level of inertia but I get your point. The pleasing point is when we needed 3 goals in 4 minutes we entered the forward so well for two of those - lowering eyes and hitting up the right option with confidence from up the ground. 

Last night was a good example of progress not being linear. We were ‘punched in the face’ and our plan quickly went back to dump kicks and boring movement. 

It’s a good thing to learn from and recommit to the plan but it can be frustrating…

We need to put away the Eagles though and stay out of our shells doing it.

3 hours ago, rpfc said:

13 year bump. 

That kind of bump will give you nosebleeds

There’s nothing more tragic than when a joke loses its context…

13 year bump. 

That kind of bump will give you nosebleeds

15 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Brad Johnson - who is apparently on the Rising Star selection committee - just said that he would be ranking the Rising Star at this point as

• 1. Windsor
• 2. Reid
• 3 M Roberts

Correction: Brad Johnson was giving his views to Kane Cornes who IS on the selection committee

That is lovely. Reid has been amazing though… 

Windsor reminds me of a young Danger mouse but I don’t think with the future inside bull motif.

Would love if we were to keep that option open with his body shape if possible. He is that good - you want him in the play as much as possible, and unfortunately, the wing is a supplementary role. Supplementary in that it requires others to get you involved and impact games.

6 minutes ago, Satan said:

Afl.com.au what a joke

 

The Dees have made just one change, recalling premiership defender Jake Bowey and dropping Bailey Laurie, who was the sub for last week's win over Geelong.

Bowey sustained a hamstring injury against Sydney in Opening Round and has missed the past eight weeks but is straight back into the side for the clash at the MCG.

🎶your hamstrings connected to your…

…collarbone🎶

The human body. What a mystery

Some have touched on this but it amazes me this notion I hear occasionally about the ‘dour Dees’ as they notice us being more patient and not just accepting the ‘red mist’ that is allowed inferior teams to absorb and beat us.

We are more exciting this year then the previous two in how we play - we are just not making it easy for the other team to slingshot and bring excitement to the game.

Perhaps these commentators should comment that the other team should stop flooding and allow us to score more easily and quickly if they are looking for more excitement…

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

From start time to start time it's exactly 5 days. From end of Geelong game to start of Carlton games it's 4 days and 21-ish hours. Depends how pedantic you want to be with it.

WE WISH TO BE VERY PEDANTIC

5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

As @WheeloRatings says, you can use it to understand whether or not your misses were shots you should have taken or were just tough shots. That gives it value. It then gets mis- and over-used such as is the case by Fox in the discussed article. 

So is it a lie or a damned lie?

4 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

It's clearly not a meaningless or bad stat if the clubs put a lot of stock in it. Can you say that a team should have won a match because they won on expected scores by a small margin? No, you can't. So articles like the above from Fox Sports don't really help with interpretation of expected scores.

Goalkicking is not entirely about "who performs under pressure" - there's an element of that, but there is also an element of luck with goalkicking.

Regardless, expected scores provide two very useful and insightful metrics (even completely ignoring the "who should have won" perspective).

Average expected score per shot
This metric is a measure of average shot difficulty.

Melbourne supporters bemoan Melbourne's strategy of kicking it to the pocket because it leads to more difficult shots. This metrics quantifies this. Melbourne rank 18th for average shot difficulty in 2024 (16th last year) and 18th for set shots only (17th last year).

Average difference between actual and expected score per shot
This metric is a measure of goalkicking accuracy, and much better than raw accuracy (goals divided by shots).

People already look at the final tally of goals and behinds and draw conclusions such as a team should have won by more or were lucky to win. Two recent examples are:
 - Essendon defeating West Coast 11.11 to 11.5
 - Adelaide defeating Carlton 16.4 to 14.14

On the surface, you assume West Coast were lucky to get as close thanks to their accurate kicking and you assume Adelaide was very lucky to win thanks to their apparent ridiculously accurate kicking.

 - West Coast had 24 shots to 23 and won expected scores 89.9 to 80.7.
 - Adelaide had 25 shots to 26 (despite it being 20 "scores" to 28) and only lost expected scores 92.8 to 95.8.

Hang on a second. I am talking about insight, the stat itself can help paint a picture as much as my eyes and subjective (yet educated) opinion can, but the insight gleaned by some from this stat- including our coach apparently - is patently misguided. 

Any team that prioritises territory over deliberate movement is going to have more entries, more shots at goal, more ‘repeat’ shots at goal that make the previous ‘miss’ irrelevant to this particular stat as it would not have existed if not for the previous ‘miss’.

It is by definition a flawed stat, and, taken on its own, irrelevant.

But that’s all stats I suppose, but none get treated like this one, there is an ‘expected score’ ladder floating around for crying out flamin’!

I’m sorry, but this is a bad stat. It is just trying to place hard truth upon contests and shots at goal under pressure where there is only nuance and grey. 

There is very little insight with this particular statistic.

48 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

People suggesting we should rest players because of the five day break...forget it.  Goodwin doesn't do that.  If you're fit, you play.

We have 5 players who have less than 10 games experience. Maybe we will evolve…

18 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I feel with the crowd building to a crescendo and some of the commentary peppered in its much better that titanic meme.