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With 18 teams it is tough to work out such a draw - but even then that is not commercial minded - only football minded. Peter Jackson cares more about when we play and the commercial drivers in our fixture than how 'fair' it is from a footballing sense. That's why I didn't touch on that aspect of the fixture in this equalisation thread.
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I agree there are flaws but I don't agree with the bolded. We are talking about the difference between Pick 1 and Pick 4. The bad team is still going to get a very good pick. There perhaps can be a cutoff with 2 rounds to go so that your scenario is mitigated. It's about attempting to bring some meaning to the meaningless games.
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Being able to fulfil a role at AFL level is a Positional Role Player and definitely AFL Calibre/Quality player. It's like Jetta and Pedersen establishing themselves this season. You need these players - and they can be quite good (Franklin, Walker, Westhoff, etc) but the AFL is a midfielders league and these role player require others to get them the football. There are exceptions to every rule but the midfielders rule the world...
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I understand the desire to not punish bad teams but I will just expand on this rule a little bit: If Team A has a percentage of 50% when it is out of finals contention, and Team B has a percentage of 80% when it is out of finals contention - it is their relative increase that selects draft order. So if Team A finished the season with a percentage of 65, Team B would have to finish on 104.1% to have a larger relative increase in their percentage. Team A has incentive to play out the season and their fans have reason to expect their team to want to compete rather than just wait for the end of the season.
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I think that fear is overblown. The state leagues will be given a boon with these kids playing their teenage years there.
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Have I ever said I was humble?
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'Prime Time' for a commercial POV. Sat Afternoon is far better than Sunday.
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lol Had this in a doc and copied and pasted, for your downtime - enjoy!
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Revenues 16. All matchday revenues are to be shared equally among the 18 teams (gate, membership (discounted entry), catering, reserved seating) Again, welcome to the 21st century of equalised leagues. This is done in the NBA and NFL and if we are to truly emulate their strategies should be in place here. The AFL has already tried with the beverage agreement being shared but this is the thing that will make a huge difference to the bottom line of clubs and finally settle the question of whether the league makes the big teams or the big teams make the league (Hint: it is the former…)
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Fixture 15. There are approximately 110 ‘Prime Time’ games a season (Fri night, sat x2, and sat night x2) and they should be shared equally amongst the teams with every team getting no less than 6 a season as home games. Again, this is an equalisation measure and there are going to issues with this that reward more than others. But welcome to the 21st century in a professionally run, supposedly equalised league where ‘anyone’ can win…
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List Management 12. Abolish the Rookie Draft and the Rookie List There is no need for this mechanism anymore, if there was in the past. Rookies are paid less and are expected to do as much as professionals paid more and with more guarantee with their contracts. It is anachronistic. 13. Establish ‘Train On’ Squads after the draft (like we have now) and those players are paid well for their short time working with that team. List of 46 finalised by Jan 31. This will allow teams to agree with overlooked players after a few months training with them (or with other teams) instead of a few weeks. 14. Injury replacement players to come from outside the AFL (assuming they were in the most recent draft list). Any team can sign a player to replace an injured player for the time that player is injured. The max length contract that can be signed is until Oct 1. But that player is able to sign at that point with any team – he doesn’t have to go through the draft again.
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Draft 8. Raise the draft age by 6 months every 3 years until the minimum age is 20 by the following calendar year. This is to give teams a better idea of what they are getting when they spend those picks – it will give the draft more relevance because of that and increase the importance of high picks. 9. AFL Commission to continue to hand out picks according to their formula (and their better judgement) as it is now. There is nothing more important than a teams’ list – if there are bad teams that need help – help them. 10. 1st round picks are given 2 year contracts with two team options for the next two years, 2nd round picks are given two year contracts with 1 team option for an extra year. This is a no brainer. I cannot believe this league has a situation where the kid taken at 1 has the same contract length as the kid taken at Pick 82. 11. In lieu of a ‘lottery’ for the teams that don’t finish in the finals to determine draft picks, a Competitive Percentage Determinator should be installed. This will reward the team that increases their percentage (relatively) the most from the point they are mathematically out of finals contention until the end of the season. This will ensure teams play out the season as they chase a better pick and will keep the best players out on the park rather than put in moth balls for illegitimate reasons.
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Contracts 5. All contracts are guaranteed and cannot be altered at a later time (pay out scenarios excepted). This is to ensure that teams don’t keep players by getting 5 other players to take a pay cut down the track. Trade a player if you want to sign another. 6. All contracts cannot be formally ratified until October 1 at 12:01am. Discussions with agents/players over re-signing players is prohibited from May 31 until October 1 at 12:01am. Discussions with agents/players over signing new players are prohibited outside the month of October. This should curtail mid-season discussion over re-signing players and remove the pressure from clubs to demand answers from players before October. With contracts only ratified during that month for extensions – it does not allow talent to be locked up by clubs and allows clubs to talk to players – this will ensure players are fully aware of their market value – a massive tenet of a Salary Cap regulated league. 7. Unless contractually stipulated, players can be traded without their consent. This is what the players do not want but with their power and freedom comes some drawbacks and what they will get is less power and freedom in a professional sport. If they want protection from being traded without their consent they can negotiate that in their contracts – otherwise, welcome to the 21st century fellas…
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Salary Cap 3. The Vets cap of $400k will allow a team’s own FA signing (whether they have played 10 years or not). This would allow a team to use that money on a RFA who has been at the club for only 8 or 9 years, not just those that have been at the club for 10 years. 4. The AFL will remain a ‘Hard Cap’ league where a team cannot go over the cap, except for the stipulations mentioned in the Vets cap. There is some desire to move to a NBA style ‘soft’ cap (teams are allowed to spend over the cap on their own players essentially) but that should not be allowed – they are other mechanism to put in before a soft cap is allowed.
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Free Agency 1. Bands 4 and 5 nixed and those that fell in these categories made irrelevant to compensation. Bands 1, 2, and 3 remain as is. Those that are a loss will be in the first 3 categories – those just looking for new homes at close to minimum salaries are now removed from the compensation process. This would allow a club like MFC recruit low-end FAs while still maintaining the compensation level for losing a player like Frawley. 2. Max years for opposition teams capped at 5 This will not allow a team like Sydney to offer more than 5 years to a prospective FA. A FAs own team can offer as many years as it likes.
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Oh, boy, this is going to be a monster - I have put together a list of things that I would install as AFL chief that would make the game a more even, balanced, and enjoyable spectacle and I haven't changed one on field rule - who knew you could make change off field that affects the onfield... Instead of making it all TL:DR (Too Long; Didn't Read for Old Dee) I have cut them up into some sub headings so it will be easier for people to quote and massage and ridicule and explore what they wish:
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Well there you go DD36 - you just got the approval of h_h... That's got to bring on some reflection.
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You don't have to partake in the discussion if you don't want to - my point was to essentially say that we have 28 players that are not ready to compete in the AFL at the level of even a middling club. S-home for example was absolutely mystified a few weeks ago about the assertion that 20 players were not in the future of the club. I can barely get 20 players that have established themselves that they will be the present of the club. Stay, discuss and refute - or find another thread to contribute to...
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The reason why I have framed it like this is to give people an idea of potential talent is not realised talent and Roos can only work with the latter. I get frustrated when posters run past the names of kids that have played a handful of games and expect them to give what they should not be asked to give. That is why a discussion about AFL Calibre, or AFL Quality, or AFL Capable, is valuable to evaluating how well your team should be going in any given year. We have plenty of blokes that can fulfil a role, especially down back, but what we are lacking is high end midfield talent and simply numbers that we can put through knowing they can compete competently.
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Don't be so hard on yourself...
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Clark is retired and Byrnes about to be retired - for the prurposes of not having another group I put them there. As for Fitzpatrick - I was never 'praising him from the mountain tops' and when some on here were saying he is better than Dawes my eyes were rolling and I was negatively judging their football knowledge. And the meat is the thread - the discussion - it's not meant to be in one post. Who do you disagree with?
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His quickness and boldness just outweigh his skill issues, but I can understand the view that he is not good enough. I think that Mid Rotation was the group that fits him the best.
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It doesn't matter if he his winning the footy. He is neat with the footy and ferocious when about to get it. He would be in top 4 mids, and one of the most important players at the club.
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I have been wanting to do this for a few weeks now after not wanting to do this last year - it would be even more depressing... But I want people to see how sick this list is when compared to a middling AFL team like Collingwood/GC/Adelaide and not just those teams around us at the bottom - so 'AFL Calibre' amounts to 'AFL average.' This comes into play especially for the Rotation Mid and the Not Good Enough groups that I am basing on whether they would get a game in a middling team like those above. I have split the list into 6 groups - the first three of which are AFL Calibre and the last three not there yet, most likely won't be there, and 'not enough info.' The AFL is 'midfielders league' and so the AFL Calibre groups are: ELITE MID - N Jones ROTATION MID - Viney, Tyson, Cross, Vince, M Jones POSITIONAL ROLE PLAYER - Watts, Dawes, Frawley, Dunn, Garland, Pedersen, McDonald, Grimes, Howe, Jamar, Jetta The next groups are: POTENTIAL AFL CALIBRE - Hogan, Salem, Trengove, Kent, JKH, Gawn, Spencer NOT GOOD ENOUGH - Byrnes, Clark, McKenzie, Blease, Strauss, Nicholson, Evans, Tapscott, Terlich, Fitzpatrick, Bail MORE INFO REQUIRED - Toumpas, Clisby, Michie, Riley, Hunt, Barry, Harmes, King, Georgiou, Westrupp Analysis We don't have enough AFL Calibre players to compete with middling teams but even more disturbing is the lack of midfield depth that struggles to compete against these middling teams. I umm and ahhed over a few of them and you can argue around the edges with Bail, Trengove, and McKenzie but the premise is sound; with only 17 AFL Calibre players and only 7 looking destined to join them in the next few years our list is not in a great shape. But there is little wonder Roos' ceiling of improvement has been hit at this low point with only 17 AFL Calibre players (and some of them out of form) to work with. He is going to need a couple more summers like the last one and his continued work with the list - since Roos took over he has added 6 AFL Calibre players through recruitment and development.
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Welcome Beats - I am impressed. A few more things for dpositive - injury payments are taken into for the cap aswell and that can really push out the numbers if fringe players are on 'match payment' contracts where you don't think they will play much but their wage jumps as they play twice as much and earn another $50k. And with the bolded - the vets allowance is being chopped over the next couple of years. Geelong were allowed to pay 9 players and that adds up... Soon Vets will have their own cap of about $400k that is reserved for them. So the AFL introduces something and scraps it over a period of about 3 years... It's laughable if it wasn't so frustrating - let me at the rules goddamnit! Mine would be pretty bloody good - I will do a thread on that soon.