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I am not so blasé about 'fundamental football;' I haven't seen much of it in nearly a decade...

I accept that this post is probably the most reasoned in the thread.

Former Melbourne skipper Jack Trengove cleared by ASADA over alleged use of AOD-9604 Cleared him. They just forgot to tell him...

Roos wants 'two class mids' over the next trade and FA periods. (Who doesn't) But he is going to have to pay for them in more ways than one - to think that there will be another Tyson out there to go from a 20 game player to a 'class midfielder' is a tad ambitious. I think if Roos had the ability to get Dangerfield or Fyfe he would get them - baulking at someone's wage is ridiculous in the modern game.

That draft pick will not fill the void left in 2015. There are no definites in this game. Frawley is a good player and 2015 will most likely be tougher for his absence.

He can go, but that doesn't mean it will make us a better team. We will be worse if he does leave and if we can finagle a trade that gets us a great young mid we may be better off pretty much immediately but that is a big 'if'... I think you talking him down so much does your argument a disservice - we will not be better for his departure.

Can I just say that the rules allow players reps and clubs to talk during the month of October - that doesn't mean the relevant October either - which is why Ablett was done a year in advance and the same with Scully. So it wouldn't contravene rules for a pre-conceived contract to be in place - just ethics. I am up for any eventuality really but I am not about to tell him how to conduct his business and the most important contract he will ever sign. He loses my patience if he has already sign but as with a similar situation - I will take him at face value.

DA an AoB - Hurley's thumbs are rooted. He could barely wrap them around the footy they are so weak in the tendon. That's why they are so taped up. Open secret among Bombers fans according to one - I would look into it more but ICGAF to be honest...

I once had this dream that for like three years Demon supporters were whingeing about not picking up Hurley when we got Watts... What a nightmare that would have been, amirite?

The popularity of the OP is down to how much Jetta embodies what we would like to see more of in other Demons; selflessness and hardness.

Yes, she knows what she is doing - that's the point. My issues surrounded the inaccuracies (some might call them 'lies') that she created and permeated about my club. But each to their own. She is up there with the best in the industry - but that is more a comment on the industry. It's in a terrible state.

Er, thanks...

In about an hour - 5-6pm.

While Essendon wants to take this further for the sake of their own pride, the players should worry about themselves and rip the band-aid off. ASADA outlines the evidence, the players continue to co-operate and the AFL Tribunal gives them sanctions that will see them play at some point in 2015. The Bombers taking this to court will ruin more careers as they clean out more affected players in each off season so when they lose the case in two years time - the effect on the club is mitigated.

No he didn't. We essentially traded him for Vince. He left - we made the most out of the situation from his FA comp.

Frawley can go wherever he wants for nothing. Difficult to trade that.

DFA is irrelevant to FA compensation.

They will absolutely ask for Hogan but if it gets that far then the horse has bolted and they will settle for the best deal we are willing to do, which will still be bloody good by the way... rpfc want Fyfe! Or Dangerfield! Please, jebus!

Please take this the best way possible: I just threw up in my mouth a little. If we had only two teams to deal with we could do a deal but it's a bit hard when it is the entire league...

I don't follow the youth football. I can just say that clubs think about these things and they will make sure that there are no 'freebies' given. Clubs will make us pay what we are willing to pay.

I think McKenzie, Riley and Kent are chances. But that's it for this week.

Someone should ask Roos at his next presser about whether he is a 'gun for hire' and how he feels about being portrayed as such.

It's not about where teams 'think' he should go - it's about where teams think the Demons will match their bid. If they think we will pull the trigger at 24, then a team will make us pay that. These are not automatons making these decisions - and nor are they working in the best interests of anyone other than their own - if a club thinks we will take him with 24 - they will make us take him with 24.

That is an undersell. He got terrible delivery and Gawn used his extra 4 inches to great effect on Monday on a couple of occasions. Make no mistake who is more important to the team. I could easily construct a team without Gawn. Dawes is the reason our attack went from an F to a C from the Carlton game onwards.

It hasn't been glaringly bad. That vision of Terlich being left to his fate is damning but being a forward myself I am sympathetic when you are dragged to the backline and you are stuffed and you can't give an acceptable effort. So I will give him the benefit of the doubt for that. I have seen a few games live and I have seen he works very hard to be that lead up target. Where he suffers is when he doesn't have the confidence to mark the ball out in his hands in front of his face and also when he doesn't engage in simple forward target 'plays' such as double leading, zig-zag leading, pushing off opponents before leads, etc. He seems to have a particular desire to stand his ground and take a mark on his 'side' at waist height. It comes off from time to time for some unknown reason and he continues to do it. I think Clint Bizkit has seen this as well from memory... So I will mark him harshly for that because I know that anyone can do these things. Is it a failure of leadership? Yeah, sure. I would say it is on the low end of the richter scale when it comes to leadership failures. And I also will say that he has had games where he has broken out of that and been a monster down there. He just looks like the ultimate confidence forward and if you can get him up and about early he will repay the faith. With all that said - our forwards have received some terrible service all year - it is still spasmodic and slow to come in, and when it does come in it is rarely on the right side for any of our tall-medium forwards. Lastly, there was one poster who wanted to drop Dawes after last week which I think would be met by utter disbelief by Roos and co. down at the Dees. I still think that our troubles, and by extension Frawleys, remain ball use forward of centre - both the lack of it and the delivery of it. And that is why judgement of Frawley is so fraught this season.