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Absolutely, and with the rotations limit, that will have to happen but I don't want to see him filling a spot at HFF - the guy is a ball hunter.

Yeah, he will get another go somewhere.

That pick they have at 10 will be used for points on Hopper or Kennedy, any agreement that they would have with us would also require Ess, GC, Carlton, and Adel to be in on. It simply won't happen.

The thing about Vanders is that, yes he can butcher a footy, but sometimes its a possie not many other players would have been able to get. And when near the forward line - it doesn't have to perfect - it has to be advantage side of Hogan and he will do the rest.

He's no kid, he's 23 and he is used to playing 100 mins in the middle for two years straight for albeit a third tier comp. His body will adapt if we put him in there - it will never adapt if we leave him on a flank. He knows this is only chance to live his dream - give him a chance to do what he wants and play him in the middle - it's not like we have a plethora of options in there... Plus, he's big, plays big, and we need that. Actual need - not the 'need' that we apparently have to recruit a 2nd forward for Hogan to play with - but an actual need.

He is a ball winning mid that needs to play in the midfield - you put him on the flank predominantly and you will watch him become less and less effective. Put. Him. In. The. Guts.

DC coined He Who F.... Us Around sometime after I gave him the Voldemort - He Who Must Not Be Named - treatment. Halcyon days of Demonland those days.

Yes, I said a few days ago his floor looks like Shane Edwards. Let's hope he can get off the floor a little though...

Keep in mind that most of us are only going off highlight packages... But players like Francis look excellent as they dispose of the footy well and cut off kicks in defence and take strong marks around the ground - they really could be Goddard or they could be Daniel Bell. The player that I am excited about at this time of the year is the bull who will not let anyone else get the footy (Viney) and you just know... Or the player who is a dominant tall player that doesn't stop moving and leads in all directions and loves to use his body (Hogan) and you just know... Or the player that seems to follow the play in the centre square like he has ESP with the sherrin and when he gets the ball explodes out of the traffic as if he has a GPS inbuilt (Judd) and you just know... Obviously the last type of player is the one we are without although Petracca looks like that type of power player. Parish would be the closest to that in this class that I have seen in my limited viewings - who are the players that have those traits?

No, you don't. It doesn't really matter, but if you care so much about how others treat you on here, have some self-reflection with what you type.

Fantasy vs Reality. Apocalypse books, films, and tv shows are all the rage with a great number of people. Do they want the world to end?

Usually around now? Maybe mid-November for the older players.

I, personally, don't ever think about the hidden reasons why people on here are the way they are. And your personality is somewhat distorted by being anonymous and the words occasionally misunderstood through the lack of tone in text... I like our little community though - as we all do - some leave but they keep coming back. They love us too much.

This 'snoop dog' and I have different interpretations of the word 'need'...

So you're sticking around then?

The French? I am flattered you want to know so much about me. Alas, no I am not an 'only' child, but I don't know what traits you are referring to... If it is pedantry, that would be rich coming from the bloke who jumped down a poster's throat for implying the draft is a lottery when you are only comfortable with 'somewhat of a lottery'... I think it best of you don't make this a list of each other's personality faults because yours are longer than mine, and if you don't think so - that's a lack of self-reflection... You can add that to the list...

That's specious reasoning. As CB says - we picked duds. And if you are wondering why people have a tough time warming to you it may be because your personality gets you to inject things like the two words you have started this post with.

Oh, this will be fun. Can we get to the point where you proclaim your distaste for the posters on here and leave for the 8th time? But, the one thing I want to know before you go is - why do you have space between the end of your question and the question mark?

Some have got the meme game down. They know what they're doing. Others...don't...

It also would include the kick that set up an easy handpass to someone running into goal. The point you are bashing people over the head with clumsily is that Watts has helped us score. That would be self evident in the score involvements stat. You're welcome.

Score and goal assists are stolen from basketball where the spaces are so small that the 'assist' holds far more importance and significance than it does in AFL. Getting 'involved' in scoring play is far more important IMO and the numbers for those are:

Didn't know he was delisted.

It's about what roles people can play. We do not have a plethora of lead up HFFs to choose from - if we want that role - Watts is a huge chance to play. Putting mids on flanks is great and a boon in the new 90 rotations world we live in, but if it ain't working, it is going to be revisited. Some mids cannot play certain roles forward.

He is a flanker - they are never that important... He can make us better than a replacement flanker can - especially considering he is competing against Ben Kennedy and god knows who. But he is not important to the team.

The rest of the team will end up papering over some of his issues, but he still has to perform. Is there a spot for him in the best 22 in 2016? Absolutely. Will he be able to coast to that spot? No. I think everyone is aware that he can play, needs to play a season like he played 9 weeks last year, and if he does we are a better team.